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Twiggy at 18:21, 18 February 2026

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	A few cynical Navarr have also pointed out that as Imperial citizens the Great Forest Orcs would have unfettered access to [[Formulaic_ritual#Imperial_Lore_and_the_Ritual_List\|Imperial lore]], something the [[Conclave]] has repeatedly denied them as recently as [[384YE_Autumn_Equinox_Conclave_sessions#Concord:_Steadfast_Lore\|last season]]. Few are keen to openly decry this interest in joining Navarr as motivated by anything so crass, but in fairness the Great Forest Orcs interested in settling in Miaren and Hercynia have been clear about what they want. They want to live there just as the Navarr do now - with all the obligations and the benefits that brings.		A few cynical Navarr have also pointed out that as Imperial citizens the Great Forest Orcs would have unfettered access to [[Formulaic_ritual#Imperial_Lore_and_the_Ritual_List\|Imperial lore]], something the [[Conclave]] has repeatedly denied them as recently as [[384YE_Autumn_Equinox_Conclave_sessions#Concord:_Steadfast_Lore\|last season]]. Few are keen to openly decry this interest in joining Navarr as motivated by anything so crass, but in fairness the Great Forest Orcs interested in settling in Miaren and Hercynia have been clear about what they want. They want to live there just as the Navarr do now - with all the obligations and the benefits that brings.

	For that matter it's not entirely clear how much the Great Forest Orcs own elders approve of these enthusiasts leaving their people to integrate with the Navarr. Thus far Chief ~~Valack~~ and his advisors have not opposed the establishment of settlements away from Therunin. On the other hand, the road between "live elsewhere" and "forsake the sept" is likely to be long and twisted. They also have their own [[Great_Forest_Orcs#Religion\|spiritual beliefs]], which they have been very cautious about sharing with outsiders. It is known that they imagine that "invisible spirits" exist related to their concept of the Great Forest. How would that integrate with [[the Way]]? How can they be part of the [[Navarr_culture_and_customs#The_Great_Dance\|Great Dance]] if they do not reincarnate? While there are plenty of Navarr who do not trace a physical line of descent from ancient Terunael, surely this is a step too far?		For that matter it's not entirely clear how much the Great Forest Orcs own elders approve of these enthusiasts leaving their people to integrate with the Navarr. Thus far Chief Vallack and his advisors have not opposed the establishment of settlements away from Therunin. On the other hand, the road between "live elsewhere" and "forsake the sept" is likely to be long and twisted. They also have their own [[Great_Forest_Orcs#Religion\|spiritual beliefs]], which they have been very cautious about sharing with outsiders. It is known that they imagine that "invisible spirits" exist related to their concept of the Great Forest. How would that integrate with [[the Way]]? How can they be part of the [[Navarr_culture_and_customs#The_Great_Dance\|Great Dance]] if they do not reincarnate? While there are plenty of Navarr who do not trace a physical line of descent from ancient Terunael, surely this is a step too far?

	The Navarr Assembly could endorse a mandate urging their fellow citizens to caution.		The Navarr Assembly could endorse a mandate urging their fellow citizens to caution.

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	On the other hand, if something goes wrong, if the Senate is forced to break its promise to the Great Forest Orcs for example, then the repercussions will be amplified. The Great Forest Orcs have taken the Senate at their word, but more than a few Navarr point out that the Senate has changed its mind before now... At the moment most of the Great Forest Orcs are in Therunin - if the worst came to the worst their anger could be contained. Once there are orc settlements in Miaren and Hercynia as well, it will be much harder to contain the consequences of any conflict between Imperial citizens and Great Forest Orcs. And if the consequences would be severe with orcs settled in Miaren and Hercynia, how much more overwhelming would they be if the Navarr had Great Forest Orc members and descendants among their own number as equal citizens? It would be easy to see war with the Great Forest Orcs as war with the Navarr themselves.		On the other hand, if something goes wrong, if the Senate is forced to break its promise to the Great Forest Orcs for example, then the repercussions will be amplified. The Great Forest Orcs have taken the Senate at their word, but more than a few Navarr point out that the Senate has changed its mind before now... At the moment most of the Great Forest Orcs are in Therunin - if the worst came to the worst their anger could be contained. Once there are orc settlements in Miaren and Hercynia as well, it will be much harder to contain the consequences of any conflict between Imperial citizens and Great Forest Orcs. And if the consequences would be severe with orcs settled in Miaren and Hercynia, how much more overwhelming would they be if the Navarr had Great Forest Orc members and descendants among their own number as equal citizens? It would be easy to see war with the Great Forest Orcs as war with the Navarr themselves.

	A few cynical Navarr have also pointed out that as Imperial citizens the Great Forest Orcs would have unfettered access to [[Formulaic_ritual#Imperial_Lore_and_the_Ritual_List\|Imperial lore]], something the [[~~Imperial~~ Conclave]] has repeatedly denied them as recently as [[384YE_Autumn_Equinox_Conclave_sessions#Concord:_Steadfast_Lore\|last season]]. Few are keen to openly decry this interest in joining Navarr as motivated by anything so crass, but in fairness the Great Forest Orcs interested in settling in Miaren and Hercynia have been clear about what they want. They want to live there just as the Navarr do now - with all the obligations and the benefits that brings.		A few cynical Navarr have also pointed out that as Imperial citizens the Great Forest Orcs would have unfettered access to [[Formulaic_ritual#Imperial_Lore_and_the_Ritual_List\|Imperial lore]], something the [[Conclave]] has repeatedly denied them as recently as [[384YE_Autumn_Equinox_Conclave_sessions#Concord:_Steadfast_Lore\|last season]]. Few are keen to openly decry this interest in joining Navarr as motivated by anything so crass, but in fairness the Great Forest Orcs interested in settling in Miaren and Hercynia have been clear about what they want. They want to live there just as the Navarr do now - with all the obligations and the benefits that brings.

	For that matter it's not entirely clear how much the Great Forest Orcs own elders approve of these enthusiasts leaving their people to integrate with the Navarr. Thus far Chief Valack and his advisors have not opposed the establishment of settlements away from Therunin. On the other hand, the road between "live elsewhere" and "forsake the sept" is likely to be long and twisted. They also have their own [[Great_Forest_Orcs#Religion\|spiritual beliefs]], which they have been very cautious about sharing with outsiders. It is known that they imagine that "invisible spirits" exist related to their concept of the Great Forest. How would that integrate with [[the Way]]? How can they be part of the [[Navarr_culture_and_customs#The_Great_Dance\|Great Dance]] if they do not reincarnate? While there are plenty of Navarr who do not trace a physical line of descent from ancient Terunael, surely this is a step too far?		For that matter it's not entirely clear how much the Great Forest Orcs own elders approve of these enthusiasts leaving their people to integrate with the Navarr. Thus far Chief Valack and his advisors have not opposed the establishment of settlements away from Therunin. On the other hand, the road between "live elsewhere" and "forsake the sept" is likely to be long and twisted. They also have their own [[Great_Forest_Orcs#Religion\|spiritual beliefs]], which they have been very cautious about sharing with outsiders. It is known that they imagine that "invisible spirits" exist related to their concept of the Great Forest. How would that integrate with [[the Way]]? How can they be part of the [[Navarr_culture_and_customs#The_Great_Dance\|Great Dance]] if they do not reincarnate? While there are plenty of Navarr who do not trace a physical line of descent from ancient Terunael, surely this is a step too far?

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	The two groups are primarily young orcs, some of whom have only been recognised as adults since fleeing the Barrens. Others have recently begun new families, and are giving additional thought to the future. They are clear that these new settlements would be ''permanent''. Returning to the Barrens holds little appeal for these orcs; they would rather build on their relationships with their Navarr allies, embrace the benefits offered by living in the Empire, and experience life in "fragments of the Great Forest" far from the Heart of Peytaht.		The two groups are primarily young orcs, some of whom have only been recognised as adults since fleeing the Barrens. Others have recently begun new families, and are giving additional thought to the future. They are clear that these new settlements would be ''permanent''. Returning to the Barrens holds little appeal for these orcs; they would rather build on their relationships with their Navarr allies, embrace the benefits offered by living in the Empire, and experience life in "fragments of the Great Forest" far from the Heart of Peytaht.

	The national assembly could pass a [[mandate]] proposed by Corey Wayfarer to encourage the Navarr to welcome their new allies to live among them.		The national assembly could pass a [[mandate]] proposed by '''Corey Wayfarer''' to encourage the Navarr to welcome their new allies to live among them.

	{{Mandate\|assembly=Navarr Assembly\|mandate=We welcome the Great Forest Orcs to all our territories to share following the example of Zemress to share in our combined prosperity, work hard and defend what we have. We send {named priest} with 50 doses of liao to encourage all Navarr to welcome the Great Forest Orcs and encourage them to settle. All that is worthwhile is shared with those who deserve it.}}		{{Mandate\|assembly=Navarr Assembly\|mandate=We welcome the Great Forest Orcs to all our territories to share following the example of Zemress to share in our combined prosperity, work hard and defend what we have. We send {named priest} with 50 doses of liao to encourage all Navarr to welcome the Great Forest Orcs and encourage them to settle. All that is worthwhile is shared with those who deserve it.}}

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	The two groups are primarily young orcs, some of whom have only been recognised as adults since fleeing the Barrens. Others have recently begun new families, and are giving additional thought to the future. They are clear that these new settlements would be ''permanent''. Returning to the Barrens holds little appeal for these orcs; they would rather build on their relationships with their Navarr allies, embrace the benefits offered by living in the Empire, and experience life in "fragments of the Great Forest" far from the Heart of Peytaht.		The two groups are primarily young orcs, some of whom have only been recognised as adults since fleeing the Barrens. Others have recently begun new families, and are giving additional thought to the future. They are clear that these new settlements would be ''permanent''. Returning to the Barrens holds little appeal for these orcs; they would rather build on their relationships with their Navarr allies, embrace the benefits offered by living in the Empire, and experience life in "fragments of the Great Forest" far from the Heart of Peytaht.

	The national assembly could pass a [[mandate]] to encourage the Navarr to welcome their new allies to live among them.		The national assembly could pass a [[mandate]] proposed by Corey Wayfarer to encourage the Navarr to welcome their new allies to live among them.

	{{Mandate\|assembly=Navarr Assembly\|mandate= ~~The Virtuous build up their fellows~~. We send {named priest} with 50 doses of liao to encourage Navarr ~~across the Empire~~ to welcome the Great Forest Orcs and encourage them to settle ~~in Miaren and Hercynia~~. All that is worthwhile is shared with those who deserve it.}}		{{Mandate\|assembly=Navarr Assembly\|mandate=We welcome the Great Forest Orcs to all our territories to share following the example of Zemress to share in our combined prosperity, work hard and defend what we have. We send {named priest} with 50 doses of liao to encourage all Navarr to welcome the Great Forest Orcs and encourage them to settle. All that is worthwhile is shared with those who deserve it.}}

	If this mandate is endorsed, the Great Forest Orcs will create the ''Great Forest Steading'' in Miaren and the ''High Pines Steading'' in Hercynia. They aren't asking for assistance with this - they have the funds and expertise to build their new homes. While some will work as [[herb garden\|herbalists]], cultivate [[forest\|forests]], or [[business\|trade]], others will seek employment at the weirwood groves themselves. The Great Forest Orc expertise in working with wood, especially weirwood, is well known. This will provide immediate benefit with the holder of the [[Golden Trees of Seren]] and the [[Heartwood of the Great Vale]]. Provided they are prepared to pay money to hire Great Forest Orcs to work the groves, their expertise will help boost production of the Bourse seats.		If this mandate is endorsed, the Great Forest Orcs will create the ''Great Forest Steading'' in Miaren and the ''High Pines Steading'' in Hercynia. They aren't asking for assistance with this - they have the funds and expertise to build their new homes. While some will work as [[herb garden\|herbalists]], cultivate [[forest\|forests]], or [[business\|trade]], others will seek employment at the weirwood groves themselves. The Great Forest Orc expertise in working with wood, especially weirwood, is well known. This will provide immediate benefit with the holder of the [[Golden Trees of Seren]] and the [[Heartwood of the Great Vale]]. Provided they are prepared to pay money to hire Great Forest Orcs to work the groves, their expertise will help boost production of the Bourse seats.

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	If this mandate is endorsed, the Great Forest Orcs will create the ''Great Forest Steading'' in Miaren and the ''High Pines Steading'' in Hercynia. They aren't asking for assistance with this - they have the funds and expertise to build their new homes. While some will work as [[herb garden\|herbalists]], cultivate [[forest\|forests]], or [[business\|trade]], others will seek employment at the weirwood groves themselves. The Great Forest Orc expertise in working with wood, especially weirwood, is well known. This will provide immediate benefit with the holder of the [[Golden Trees of Seren]] and the [[Heartwood of the Great Vale]]. Provided they are prepared to pay money to hire Great Forest Orcs to work the groves, their expertise will help boost production of the Bourse seats.		If this mandate is endorsed, the Great Forest Orcs will create the ''Great Forest Steading'' in Miaren and the ''High Pines Steading'' in Hercynia. They aren't asking for assistance with this - they have the funds and expertise to build their new homes. While some will work as [[herb garden\|herbalists]], cultivate [[forest\|forests]], or [[business\|trade]], others will seek employment at the weirwood groves themselves. The Great Forest Orc expertise in working with wood, especially weirwood, is well known. This will provide immediate benefit with the holder of the [[Golden Trees of Seren]] and the [[Heartwood of the Great Vale]]. Provided they are prepared to pay money to hire Great Forest Orcs to work the groves, their expertise will help boost production of the Bourse seats.

	However Morwenna Winterbuilt has suggested that the Navarr Assembly make a much stronger statement than this. She asks them to judge this mandate:		However '''Morwenna Winterbuilt''' has suggested that the Navarr Assembly make a much stronger statement than this. She asks them to judge this mandate:

	{{Mandate\|assembly=Navarr Assembly\|mandate=We, the Navarr national assembly, swear in the name of the Marked and their first bonds of ancient kinship that none who would join our cause will go without a proper welcoming! We send {named priest} with 100 doses of liao to encourage Navarri across the Empire to show the Great Forest Orcs a spring festival they will never forget. Throw wide the gates of the Thorned Rose. Let the forges of Treji roar. Let our songs resound from root to golden boughs.}}		{{Mandate\|assembly=Navarr Assembly\|mandate=We, the Navarr national assembly, swear in the name of the Marked and their first bonds of ancient kinship that none who would join our cause will go without a proper welcoming! We send {named priest} with 100 doses of liao to encourage Navarri across the Empire to show the Great Forest Orcs a spring festival they will never forget. Throw wide the gates of the Thorned Rose. Let the forges of Treji roar. Let our songs resound from root to golden boughs.}}

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	If this mandate is endorsed, the Great Forest Orcs will create the ''Great Forest Steading'' in Miaren and the ''High Pines Steading'' in Hercynia. They aren't asking for assistance with this - they have the funds and expertise to build their new homes. While some will work as [[herb garden\|herbalists]], cultivate [[forest\|forests]], or [[business\|trade]], others will seek employment at the weirwood groves themselves. The Great Forest Orc expertise in working with wood, especially weirwood, is well known. This will provide immediate benefit with the holder of the [[Golden Trees of Seren]] and the [[Heartwood of the Great Vale]]. Provided they are prepared to pay money to hire Great Forest Orcs to work the groves, their expertise will help boost production of the Bourse seats.		If this mandate is endorsed, the Great Forest Orcs will create the ''Great Forest Steading'' in Miaren and the ''High Pines Steading'' in Hercynia. They aren't asking for assistance with this - they have the funds and expertise to build their new homes. While some will work as [[herb garden\|herbalists]], cultivate [[forest\|forests]], or [[business\|trade]], others will seek employment at the weirwood groves themselves. The Great Forest Orc expertise in working with wood, especially weirwood, is well known. This will provide immediate benefit with the holder of the [[Golden Trees of Seren]] and the [[Heartwood of the Great Vale]]. Provided they are prepared to pay money to hire Great Forest Orcs to work the groves, their expertise will help boost production of the Bourse seats.

			However Morwenna Winterbuilt has suggested that the Navarr Assembly make a much stronger statement than this. She asks them to judge this mandate:

			{{Mandate\|assembly=Navarr Assembly\|mandate=We, the Navarr national assembly, swear in the name of the Marked and their first bonds of ancient kinship that none who would join our cause will go without a proper welcoming! We send {named priest} with 100 doses of liao to encourage Navarri across the Empire to show the Great Forest Orcs a spring festival they will never forget. Throw wide the gates of the Thorned Rose. Let the forges of Treji roar. Let our songs resound from root to golden boughs.}}

			This mandate would encourage settlement in all Navarr territories, and welcome closer ties between the Great Forest Orcs and all the Navarr across the Empire. It also asks the Navarr to [[Navarr_culture_and_customs\|swear an oath]], something that is deeply cultural for the Navarr with significant ramifications. An oath like this would invoke powerful hearth magic. The consequences of breaking this oath like this would be much greater, and include supernatural consequences.

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	Huvon grinned with infectious optimism fired by his friend's obvious ignorance. "Great! How do we find out?" </ic>		Huvon grinned with infectious optimism fired by his friend's obvious ignorance. "Great! How do we find out?" </ic>
	<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Among the Navarr.jpg\|align=left\|caption=The Navarr are seen as the most welcoming of the Imperial nations... but that reputation may be about to be tested as never before.\|width=600}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Among the Navarr.jpg\|align=left\|caption=The Navarr are seen as the most welcoming of the Imperial nations... but that reputation may be about to be tested as never before.\|width=600}}</div>
			{{audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03GdVEZJ4zM}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	For some years now, there have been [[Great Forest Orcs]] travelling the [[trods]] with the [[striding\|stridings]]. The Navarr have benefitted: more people on the trods makes them more effective whether it be human or [[orc]]; its helped cement relationships between the orcs and their human neighbours in [[Therunin]]; it's also helped contribute to several [[opportunity\|opportunities]] for improved cooperation. The Great Forest Orcs have benefitted; they've gained a greater appreciation for the size of the Empire; taken advantage of opportunities to visit remnants of their "Great Forest" they might otherwise never have seen; and created opportunities for cooperation with their Navarr hosts that have helped secure their home-in-exile.		For some years now, there have been [[Great Forest Orcs]] travelling the [[trods]] with the [[striding\|stridings]]. The Navarr have benefitted: more people on the trods makes them more effective whether it be human or [[orc]]; its helped cement relationships between the orcs and their human neighbours in [[Therunin]]; it's also helped contribute to several [[opportunity\|opportunities]] for improved cooperation. The Great Forest Orcs have benefitted; they've gained a greater appreciation for the size of the Empire; taken advantage of opportunities to visit remnants of their "Great Forest" they might otherwise never have seen; and created opportunities for cooperation with their Navarr hosts that have helped secure their home-in-exile.

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	If this mandate is endorsed then the current move for deeper integration coming from some of the Great Forest Orcs will abruptly end. They will not found the proposed steadings in Miaren or Hercynia and there will be no similar requests in the future. The mandate will reinforce what many understood to be the spirit of the original agreements made with the Great Forest Orcs - that they may shelter in Therunin until it is safe to return to their homeland in the Barrens. In future, the Great Forest Orcs will focus all their enthusiasm on that goal.		If this mandate is endorsed then the current move for deeper integration coming from some of the Great Forest Orcs will abruptly end. They will not found the proposed steadings in Miaren or Hercynia and there will be no similar requests in the future. The mandate will reinforce what many understood to be the spirit of the original agreements made with the Great Forest Orcs - that they may shelter in Therunin until it is safe to return to their homeland in the Barrens. In future, the Great Forest Orcs will focus all their enthusiasm on that goal.

	<div style="float: right; max-width: 500px; width: 40%;"><box>This Wind of Fortune contains one or more mandates that can be enacted by the Synod. As per our rules on [[~~Mandates~~#Alternative Mandates\|alternative mandates]], Members of the Synod can [mailto:civil.service@profounddecisions.co.uk email us] to propose their own wording they believe will have a substantially different outcome. The deadline for this is two days after the last Wind of Fortune is published before the event, or the Friday before the event, whichever is earliest.</box></div>		<div style="float: right; max-width: 500px; width: 40%;"><box>This Wind of Fortune contains one or more mandates that can be enacted by the Synod. As per our rules on [[Mandate#Alternative Mandates\|alternative mandates]], Members of the Synod can [mailto:civil.service@profounddecisions.co.uk email us] to propose their own wording they believe will have a substantially different outcome. The deadline for this is two days after the last Wind of Fortune is published before the event, or the Friday before the event, whichever is earliest.</box></div>

	If no mandate is passed, then the steadings will not be founded. The Great Forest Orcs are clear they will not settle there without a clear invitation from their allies to do so. However they will not give up their ambitions to find a home for themselves in the Empire and may return with other requests in the future.		If no mandate is passed, then the steadings will not be founded. The Great Forest Orcs are clear they will not settle there without a clear invitation from their allies to do so. However they will not give up their ambitions to find a home for themselves in the Empire and may return with other requests in the future.

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	[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:384YE Winter]][[Category:Recent History]][[Category:Plenipotentiary]]		[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:384YE Winter]][[Category:Recent History]][[Category:Plenipotentiary]]
	<ic>Roddi stared at his young friend, feeling a little guilt mixed with a scintilla of doubt. The decision was unsurprising, sharing the jewel in the crown, the Empire's magical lore, with foreigners was just too much to ask. Especially with foreigners who had lived under the dominion of the Druj for so long, and might yet end up back there. It was just too big a risk... Dammit, he ''agreed'' with the decision - but it was still frustrating. Huvon had all the skills to make a fine vate, there was no doubt about his ability or his ~~enthusiam~~ to fight the vallorn. But without access to Imperial lore, it was likely those skills would never blossom.		<ic>Roddi stared at his young friend, feeling a little guilt mixed with a scintilla of doubt. The decision was unsurprising, sharing the jewel in the crown, the Empire's magical lore, with foreigners was just too much to ask. Especially with foreigners who had lived under the dominion of the Druj for so long, and might yet end up back there. It was just too big a risk... Dammit, he ''agreed'' with the decision - but it was still frustrating. Huvon had all the skills to make a fine vate, there was no doubt about his ability or his enthusiasm to fight the vallorn. But without access to Imperial lore, it was likely those skills would never blossom.

	"I'm sorry my friend, I did warn you it was unlikely..." Roddi's guilt ~~metasized~~ as he artfully implied the decision was not one he agreed with. The orc's face was inscrutable, but he couldn't hide the disappointment when he spoke.		"I'm sorry my friend, I did warn you it was unlikely..." Roddi's guilt metastasized as he artfully implied the decision was not one he agreed with. The orc's face was inscrutable, but he couldn't hide the disappointment when he spoke.

	"I thought we were allies - against the Druj? Against the vallorn?"		"I thought we were allies - against the Druj? Against the vallorn?"
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	"Well what if I join the Navarr? Can I learn the rituals then?"		"Well what if I join the Navarr? Can I learn the rituals then?"

	Roddi's jaw dropped - that definitely wasn't the response he'd been expecting. He tried to think of all the reasons why it was definitely impossible. He ~~rememberd~~ hearing a story once about an egregore who had disappeared when they tried to induct an orc. Now it was his turn to stand there looking pensive.		Roddi's jaw dropped - that definitely wasn't the response he'd been expecting. He tried to think of all the reasons why it was definitely impossible. He remembered hearing a story once about an egregore who had disappeared when they tried to induct an orc. Now it was his turn to stand there looking pensive.

	"I don't know" he said, speaking without really thinking what he was saying. "I... don't know if you're allowed to do that..."		"I don't know" he said, speaking without really thinking what he was saying. "I... don't know if you're allowed to do that..."

	Huvon grinned with infectious ~~optomism~~ fired by his friend's obvious ignorance. "Great! How do we find out?" </ic>		Huvon grinned with infectious optimism fired by his friend's obvious ignorance. "Great! How do we find out?" </ic>
	<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Among the Navarr.jpg\|align=left\|caption=The Navarr are seen as the most welcoming of the Imperial nations... but that reputation may be about to be tested as never before.\|width=600}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Among the Navarr.jpg\|align=left\|caption=The Navarr are seen as the most welcoming of the Imperial nations... but that reputation may be about to be tested as never before.\|width=600}}</div>
	==Overview==		==Overview==

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	If this mandate is endorsed then the current move for deeper integration coming from some of the Great Forest Orcs will abruptly end. They will not found the proposed steadings in Miaren or Hercynia and there will be no similar requests in the future. The mandate will reinforce what many understood to be the spirit of the original agreements made with the Great Forest Orcs - that they may shelter in Therunin until it is safe to return to their homeland in the Barrens. In future, the Great Forest Orcs will focus all their enthusiasm on that goal.		If this mandate is endorsed then the current move for deeper integration coming from some of the Great Forest Orcs will abruptly end. They will not found the proposed steadings in Miaren or Hercynia and there will be no similar requests in the future. The mandate will reinforce what many understood to be the spirit of the original agreements made with the Great Forest Orcs - that they may shelter in Therunin until it is safe to return to their homeland in the Barrens. In future, the Great Forest Orcs will focus all their enthusiasm on that goal.

			<div style="float: right; max-width: 500px; width: 40%;"><box>This Wind of Fortune contains one or more mandates that can be enacted by the Synod. As per our rules on [[Mandates#Alternative Mandates\|alternative mandates]], Members of the Synod can [mailto:civil.service@profounddecisions.co.uk email us] to propose their own wording they believe will have a substantially different outcome. The deadline for this is two days after the last Wind of Fortune is published before the event, or the Friday before the event, whichever is earliest.</box></div>

	If no mandate is passed, then the steadings will not be founded. The Great Forest Orcs are clear they will not settle there without a clear invitation from their allies to do so. However they will not give up their ambitions to find a home for themselves in the Empire and may return with other requests in the future.		If no mandate is passed, then the steadings will not be founded. The Great Forest Orcs are clear they will not settle there without a clear invitation from their allies to do so. However they will not give up their ambitions to find a home for themselves in the Empire and may return with other requests in the future.

	~~==Alternate Mandates==~~
	~~Any alternate mandate requests should be [mailto:civil.service@profounddecisions.co.uk emailed to] civil.service@profounddecisions.co.uk please.~~

	==OOC Note==		==OOC Note==