Veto - Revision history

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Senate" to "[[Senate"

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Text replacement - "[[Imperial Senate" to "[[Senate"

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	{{Synod Judgement Summary\|General Assembly, Assembly of Nine, National Assembly\|Greater Majority}}		{{Synod Judgement Summary\|General Assembly, Assembly of Nine, National Assembly\|Greater Majority}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	The Synod is charged with ensuring the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. Because the decisions of the [[~~Imperial~~ Senate]] are crucial to the soul of the Empire, the General [[Assembly]] has the authority to veto one [[Senate motion]] or [[Senate announcement]] each summit. This allows them to act as a check and balance on the power of the Senate, throwing out decisions that are corrupt, unvirtuous or otherwise offend the moral turpitude.		The Synod is charged with ensuring the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. Because the decisions of the [[Senate]] are crucial to the soul of the Empire, the General [[Assembly]] has the authority to veto one [[Senate motion]] or [[Senate announcement]] each summit. This allows them to act as a check and balance on the power of the Senate, throwing out decisions that are corrupt, unvirtuous or otherwise offend the moral turpitude.

	Any Senate motion that requires a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass may be vetoed by the General Assembly or by the Assembly of Nine. The veto always requires the greater majority to pass - but the Synod may veto any number of constitutional votes. If the motion involves the [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Relinquishment\|relinquishment]] of a territory, region, or national bourse seat, then it can also be vetoed by the relevant National Assembly, in addition to the General Assembly.		Any Senate motion that requires a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass may be vetoed by the General Assembly or by the Assembly of Nine. The veto always requires the greater majority to pass - but the Synod may veto any number of constitutional votes. If the motion involves the [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Relinquishment\|relinquishment]] of a territory, region, or national bourse seat, then it can also be vetoed by the relevant National Assembly, in addition to the General Assembly.

Kirkbride: /* Overview */

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Overview

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	The Synod is charged with ensuring the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. Because the decisions of the [[Imperial Senate]] are crucial to the soul of the Empire, the General [[Assembly]] has the authority to veto one [[Senate motion]] or [[Senate announcement]] each summit. This allows them to act as a check and balance on the power of the Senate, throwing out decisions that are corrupt, unvirtuous or otherwise offend the moral turpitude.		The Synod is charged with ensuring the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. Because the decisions of the [[Imperial Senate]] are crucial to the soul of the Empire, the General [[Assembly]] has the authority to veto one [[Senate motion]] or [[Senate announcement]] each summit. This allows them to act as a check and balance on the power of the Senate, throwing out decisions that are corrupt, unvirtuous or otherwise offend the moral turpitude.

	Any Senate motion that requires a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass may be vetoed by the General Assembly or by the Assembly of Nine. The veto always requires the greater majority to pass - but the Synod may veto any number of constitutional votes. If the motion involves the [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Relinquishment\|relinquishment]] of a territory or national bourse seat then it can also be vetoed by the relevant National Assembly, in addition to the General Assembly~~, or the Assembly of Nine~~.		Any Senate motion that requires a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass may be vetoed by the General Assembly or by the Assembly of Nine. The veto always requires the greater majority to pass - but the Synod may veto any number of constitutional votes. If the motion involves the [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Relinquishment\|relinquishment]] of a territory, region, or national bourse seat, then it can also be vetoed by the relevant National Assembly, in addition to the General Assembly.

	<quote by="Imperial Constitution">The Synod shall ensure the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. </quote>		<quote by="Imperial Constitution">The Synod shall ensure the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. </quote>
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	==Judgement==		==Judgement==
	Any member of the Synod may submit a judgement of veto. The judgement must specify a single successful motion that has passed the Senate that summit, or one Senate announcement that was made that summit, and must be submitted before the start of the Senate session after it was passed or announced. It is not possible to veto a motion or announcement before it has been passed by the Senate.		Any member of the Synod may submit a judgement of veto. The judgement must specify a single successful motion that has passed the Senate that summit, or one Senate announcement that was made that summit, and must be submitted before the start of the Senate session after it was passed or announced. It is not possible to veto a motion or announcement before it has been passed by the Senate.

Matt: /* Timing */

2024-08-31T17:48:01Z

Timing

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	Most citizens begin to depart Anvil once the final Senate session concludes. Since the judgement must be submitted at the summit where the motion was passed, the Tribune allows members of the Synod to request a veto after the final Senate session has taken place. If a judgement of veto is submitted to a civil servant then the motion will not pass into law until the Synod has had time to consider their judgement.		Most citizens begin to depart Anvil once the final Senate session concludes. Since the judgement must be submitted at the summit where the motion was passed, the Tribune allows members of the Synod to request a veto after the final Senate session has taken place. If a judgement of veto is submitted to a civil servant then the motion will not pass into law until the Synod has had time to consider their judgement.

	Although it is rare for a Tribune to be present in the Senate during the final session, it is technically legal for ''any'' civil servant to accept a judgement. Traditionally this is accomplished by a citizen calling out from the gallery or the floor that they ''intend to seek the veto''. A civil servant will find the citizen to confirm that they are a member of the Synod who has not yet used their judgement this summit. If that is the case, they will accept the judgement and then pass the details to the Tribune for judgement ~~before~~ the ~~first~~ voting ~~deadline~~ at the ~~following summit~~.		Although it is rare for a Tribune to be present in the Senate during the final session, it is technically legal for ''any'' civil servant to accept a judgement. Traditionally this is accomplished by a citizen calling out from the gallery or the floor that they ''intend to seek the veto''. A civil servant will find the citizen to confirm that they are a member of the Synod who has not yet used their judgement this summit. If that is the case, they will accept the judgement and then pass the details to the Tribune for judgement at the next summit. It will be available for voting on the Friday with scrutiny closing at 10pm on Saturday evening. It is not possible for a cardinal to extend the scrutiny period further.

	<div style="float:right;"><quote by="Marcher Proverb">A small leak will sink a great ship.</quote></div>		<div style="float:right;"><quote by="Marcher Proverb">A small leak will sink a great ship.</quote></div>

Hailmur at 14:27, 8 March 2024

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	{{Synod Judgement Summary\|General Assembly, Assembly of Nine\|Greater Majority}}		{{Synod Judgement Summary\|General Assembly, Assembly of Nine, National Assembly\|Greater Majority}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	The Synod is charged with ensuring the virtuous ~~behavior~~ of the Empire. Because the decisions of the [[Imperial Senate]] are crucial to the soul of the Empire, the General [[Assembly]] has the authority to veto one [[Senate motion]] or [[Senate announcement]] each summit. This allows them to act as a check and balance on the power of the Senate, throwing out decisions that are corrupt, unvirtuous or otherwise offend the moral turpitude.		The Synod is charged with ensuring the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. Because the decisions of the [[Imperial Senate]] are crucial to the soul of the Empire, the General [[Assembly]] has the authority to veto one [[Senate motion]] or [[Senate announcement]] each summit. This allows them to act as a check and balance on the power of the Senate, throwing out decisions that are corrupt, unvirtuous or otherwise offend the moral turpitude.

	Any Senate motion that requires a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass may be vetoed by the General Assembly or by the Assembly of Nine. The veto always requires the greater majority to pass - but the Synod may veto any number of constitutional votes.		Any Senate motion that requires a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass may be vetoed by the General Assembly or by the Assembly of Nine. The veto always requires the greater majority to pass - but the Synod may veto any number of constitutional votes. If the motion involves the [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Relinquishment\|relinquishment]] of a territory or national bourse seat then it can also be vetoed by the relevant National Assembly, in addition to the General Assembly, or the Assembly of Nine.

	<quote by="Imperial Constitution">The Synod shall ensure the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. </quote>		<quote by="Imperial Constitution">The Synod shall ensure the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. </quote>

Rafferty: /* Timing */

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Timing

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	Most citizens begin to depart Anvil once the final Senate session concludes. Since the judgement must be submitted at the summit where the motion was passed, the Tribune allows members of the Synod to request a veto after the final Senate session has taken place. If a judgement of veto is submitted to a civil servant then the motion will not pass into law until the Synod has had time to consider their judgement.		Most citizens begin to depart Anvil once the final Senate session concludes. Since the judgement must be submitted at the summit where the motion was passed, the Tribune allows members of the Synod to request a veto after the final Senate session has taken place. If a judgement of veto is submitted to a civil servant then the motion will not pass into law until the Synod has had time to consider their judgement.

	Although it is rare for a Tribune to be present in the Senate during the final session, it is technically legal for ''any'' civil servant to accept a judgement. Traditionally this is accomplished by a citizen calling out from the gallery or the floor that they ''intend to seek the veto''. A civil servant will find the citizen to confirm that they are a member of the Synod who has not yet used their judgement this summit. If that is the case, they will accept the judgement and ~~the~~ pass the details to the Tribune for judgement before the first voting deadline at the following summit.		Although it is rare for a Tribune to be present in the Senate during the final session, it is technically legal for ''any'' civil servant to accept a judgement. Traditionally this is accomplished by a citizen calling out from the gallery or the floor that they ''intend to seek the veto''. A civil servant will find the citizen to confirm that they are a member of the Synod who has not yet used their judgement this summit. If that is the case, they will accept the judgement and then pass the details to the Tribune for judgement before the first voting deadline at the following summit.

	<div style="float:right;"><quote by="Marcher Proverb">A small leak will sink a great ship.</quote></div>		<div style="float:right;"><quote by="Marcher Proverb">A small leak will sink a great ship.</quote></div>

Emmanovi: /* Judgement */ adding announcements

2022-08-10T23:24:13Z

Judgement: adding announcements

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	==Judgement==		==Judgement==
	Any member of the Synod may submit a judgement of veto. The judgement must specify a single successful motion that has passed the Senate that summit and must be submitted before the start of the Senate session after it was passed. It is not possible to veto a motion before it has been passed by the Senate.		Any member of the Synod may submit a judgement of veto. The judgement must specify a single successful motion that has passed the Senate that summit, or one Senate announcement that was made that summit, and must be submitted before the start of the Senate session after it was passed or announced. It is not possible to veto a motion or announcement before it has been passed by the Senate.

	The Synod may only veto one normal motion per summit. It is possible for different Synod members to submit judgements to veto different motions; but judgements of veto that cannot legally pass are cancelled at the moment where the first judgement achieves [[judgement#Primacy\|primacy]].		The Synod may only veto one normal motion or announcement per summit. It is possible for different Synod members to submit judgements to veto different motions or announcements; but judgements of veto that cannot legally pass are cancelled at the moment where the first judgement achieves [[judgement#Primacy\|primacy]].

	If an Assembly rejects a judgement to veto a Senate motion - then it may not reconsider this judgement later. It is not possible to submit a second judgement of veto to veto the same senate motion.		If an Assembly rejects a judgement to veto a Senate motion or announcement - then it may not reconsider this judgement later. It is not possible to submit a second judgement of veto to veto the same senate motion or announcement.

	When a judgement of veto is submitted, the Tribune is responsible for informing the senator who raised the motion. Usually they will send a messenger to find the ~~senator~~ to ask them to attend the Hub so that they can be briefed on the development.		When a judgement of veto is submitted, the Tribune is responsible for informing the senator who raised the motion, or the individual who made the announcement. Usually they will send a messenger to find the citizen to ask them to attend the Hub so that they can be briefed on the development.

	A judgement of veto always requires a greater majority to pass.		A judgement of veto always requires a greater majority to pass.

Matt at 16:44, 19 February 2018

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	{{Synod Judgement Summary\|General Assembly, Assembly of Nine\|Greater Majority}}		{{Synod Judgement Summary\|General Assembly, Assembly of Nine\|Greater Majority}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	The Synod is charged with ensuring the virtuous behavior of the Empire. Because the decisions of the [[Imperial Senate]] are crucial to the soul of the Empire, the General [[Assembly]] has the authority to veto one [[Senate motion]] each summit. This allows them to act as a check and balance on the power of the Senate, throwing out decisions that are corrupt, unvirtuous or otherwise offend the moral turpitude.		The Synod is charged with ensuring the virtuous behavior of the Empire. Because the decisions of the [[Imperial Senate]] are crucial to the soul of the Empire, the General [[Assembly]] has the authority to veto one [[Senate motion]] or [[Senate announcement]] each summit. This allows them to act as a check and balance on the power of the Senate, throwing out decisions that are corrupt, unvirtuous or otherwise offend the moral turpitude.

	Any Senate motion that requires a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass may be vetoed by the General Assembly or by the Assembly of Nine. The veto always requires the greater majority to pass - but the Synod may veto any number of constitutional votes.		Any Senate motion that requires a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass may be vetoed by the General Assembly or by the Assembly of Nine. The veto always requires the greater majority to pass - but the Synod may veto any number of constitutional votes.

Matt at 22:54, 10 May 2017

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	<quote by="Imperial Constitution">The Synod shall ensure the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. </quote>		<quote by="Imperial Constitution">The Synod shall ensure the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. </quote>
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	==Judgement==		==Judgement==
	Any member of the Synod may submit a judgement of veto. The judgement must specify a single successful motion that has passed the Senate that summit and must be submitted before the start of the Senate session after it was passed. It is not possible to veto a motion before it has been passed by the Senate.		Any member of the Synod may submit a judgement of veto. The judgement must specify a single successful motion that has passed the Senate that summit and must be submitted before the start of the Senate session after it was passed. It is not possible to veto a motion before it has been passed by the Senate.
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	A judgement of veto always requires a greater majority to pass.		A judgement of veto always requires a greater majority to pass.
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	==Timing==		==Timing==
	If the Imperial Synod submits a judgement of veto for a motion - then implementation of the motion will not proceed until voting has concluded. To ensure the smooth running of the Senate, a veto must be submitted at the same summit where the motion was passed and before the start of the next Senate session.		If the Imperial Synod submits a judgement of veto for a motion - then implementation of the motion will not proceed until voting has concluded. To ensure the smooth running of the Senate, a veto must be submitted at the same summit where the motion was passed and before the start of the next Senate session.

Matt at 22:54, 10 May 2017

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	A judgement of veto always requires a greater majority to pass.		A judgement of veto always requires a greater majority to pass.
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	==Timing==		==Timing==
	If the Imperial Synod submits a judgement of veto for a motion - then implementation of the motion will not proceed until voting has concluded. To ensure the smooth running of the Senate, a veto must be submitted at the same summit where the motion was passed and before the start of the next Senate session.		If the Imperial Synod submits a judgement of veto for a motion - then implementation of the motion will not proceed until voting has concluded. To ensure the smooth running of the Senate, a veto must be submitted at the same summit where the motion was passed and before the start of the next Senate session.

Rafferty: Synod Update 2017

2017-03-30T09:45:19Z

Synod Update 2017

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	~~<quote by~~=~~"Senator Gabriel, addressing~~ the Senate~~">"And I say~~ to ~~you that a law requiring~~ the ~~priests~~ of the ~~Synod~~ to ~~give up~~ a ~~portion~~ of ~~their liao is truely in~~ the ~~best interests of~~ the ~~Empire~~.~~"</quote>~~		{{Synod Judgement Summary\|General Assembly, Assembly of Nine\|Greater Majority}}
			==Overview==
			The Synod is charged with ensuring the virtuous behavior of the Empire. Because the decisions of the [[Imperial Senate]] are crucial to the soul of the Empire, the General [[Assembly]] has the authority to veto one [[Senate motion]] each summit. This allows them to act as a check and balance on the power of the Senate, throwing out decisions that are corrupt, unvirtuous or otherwise offend the moral turpitude.

	~~The Synod has~~ the ~~power to veto a motion made~~ by the ~~Senate~~. ~~This power exists so that~~ the Synod ~~can provide a check and balance on the power~~ of ~~the Senate~~.		Any Senate motion that requires a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass may be vetoed by the General Assembly or by the Assembly of Nine. The veto always requires the greater majority to pass - but the Synod may veto any number of constitutional votes.

	=~~==Process===~~		<quote by="Imperial Constitution">The Synod shall ensure the virtuous behaviour of the Empire. </quote>
	~~Once a Senate motion has passed on the Senate floor, the~~ Synod ~~has between~~ the ~~closure~~ of the ~~Senate sitting and the commencement of the next session to secure a judgment of the General Assembly to veto the motion~~.

	~~<box>At~~ the ~~3pm session,~~ a Senate ~~motion is proposed creating a law~~ that ~~requires all Synod priests to give one portion~~ of the ~~liao allocated~~ to ~~them~~ by the ~~civil service, per summit, to a central store for the Empire's use. The motion passes~~.		==Judgement==
			Any member of the Synod may submit a judgement of veto. The judgement must specify a single successful motion that has passed the Senate that summit and must be submitted before the start of the Senate session after it was passed. It is not possible to veto a motion before it has been passed by the Senate.

	~~A Prosperity priest raises a judgement in the General Assembly immediately after the Senate session ends~~. ~~The~~ Synod ~~has between the closure of the Senate session and the start of the 8pm session~~ to ~~secure a greater majority~~ of the ~~General Assembly and veto~~ the ~~motion~~.~~</box>~~		The Synod may only veto one normal motion per summit. It is possible for different Synod members to submit judgements to veto different motions; but judgements of veto that cannot legally pass are cancelled at the moment where the first judgement achieves [[judgement#Primacy\|primacy]].

	~~The General~~ Assembly ~~may~~ veto ~~one standard~~ motion ~~per summit~~. ~~The [[Conscience~~ of ~~the Senate]] is responsible for announcing vetoes~~ to the ~~Senate~~.		If an Assembly rejects a judgement to veto a Senate motion - then it may not reconsider this judgement later. It is not possible to submit a second judgement of veto to veto the same senate motion.

	~~If members of the Synod wish the Senate to delay implementation of~~ a ~~motion while the power~~ of ~~the~~ veto is ~~sought~~, ~~then~~ the ~~best way~~ to ~~achieve this is~~ to ~~tell relevant individuals in~~ the ~~Senate. More information about this~~ can be ~~found [[Senate_motion#Consideration\|here]]~~.		When a judgement of veto is submitted, the Tribune is responsible for informing the senator who raised the motion. Usually they will send a messenger to find the senator to ask them to attend the Hub so that they can be briefed on the development.

	~~===Constitutional Motions===~~		A judgement of veto always requires a greater majority to pass.
	~~Where a motion that has constitutional implications is passed through the Senate, the Assembly~~ of ~~Nine, or General Assembly, may~~ veto ~~it with~~ a greater majority~~. There is no limit on the number of such motions that may be vetoed in this manner~~.

	==~~=Further Reading=~~==		==Timing==
	*[[Imperial Synod ~~\|Synod Processes~~ and ~~Powers]]~~		If the Imperial Synod submits a judgement of veto for a motion - then implementation of the motion will not proceed until voting has concluded. To ensure the smooth running of the Senate, a veto must be submitted at the same summit where the motion was passed and before the start of the next Senate session.
	**[[The Assemblies of the ~~Synod\|Information about the different Assemblies]]~~

	** [[The Powers of Synod ~~Priests\|The powers~~ of ~~individual~~ Synod ~~Members]]~~		Most citizens begin to depart Anvil once the final Senate session concludes. Since the judgement must be submitted at the summit where the motion was passed, the Tribune allows members of the Synod to request a veto after the final Senate session has taken place. If a judgement of veto is submitted to a civil servant then the motion will not pass into law until the Synod has had time to consider their judgement.
	***[[How Assemblies make Judgments\|Judgement]]
	***[[Witness]]
	***[[Sanctuary]]
	***[[Clemency]]

	**[[The Judgments of the Synod~~\|The Judgements of~~ the ~~Synod]]~~		Although it is rare for a Tribune to be present in the Senate during the final session, it is technically legal for ''any'' civil servant to accept a judgement. Traditionally this is accomplished by a citizen calling out from the gallery or the floor that they ''intend to seek the veto''. A civil servant will find the citizen to confirm that they are a member of the Synod who has not yet used their judgement this summit. If that is the case, they will accept the judgement and the pass the details to the Tribune for judgement before the first voting deadline at the following summit.
	***[[Appointment]]
	***[[Inquisition]]
	***[[Condemnation]]
	***[[Statement of Principle]]
	***[[Revocation]]
	***[[Recognition]]
	***[[Veto]]
	***[[Rewarding]]
	***[[Changing Doctrine]]
	***[[Writ of Excommunication]]

	* Religion		<div style="float:right;"><quote by="Marcher Proverb">A small leak will sink a great ship.</quote></div>
	** [[The Way\|The Way of Virtue]]
	** [[Imperial Theology]]
	** [[Religious skills]]
	**[[Religious Crimes]]
	* [[Recent history]]

	[[~~Category:~~Synod]]		==Outcome==
			If the Synod passes a judgement of veto, then the Senate motion is struck down.

			The motion does not pass into law - and furthermore the Senate may not pass another motion which is the legal equivalent again that summit. They may pass a motion on the same issue provided that it contains substantive legal differences to the motion that was vetoed. This assessment is made by [[scrutiny]] by the Constitutional Court - who have a reputation for respecting the expressed wishes of the Synod in this matter.

			The [[Conscience of the Senate]] is responsible for announcing vetoes to the Senate. The [[Speaker for the Senate]] will invite the Synod to speak and inform the Senate of their decision at the start of the next summit. Usually the Conscience will make the announcement themselves, but the Speaker will usually allow the Conscience to invite another member of the Synod to speak in their place if they wish.

			If the Synod rejects a judgement of veto, then that assembly they may not raise another judgement to reconsider the matter, though it may still be judged by another assembly if appropriate.

			{{Synod Further Reading}}