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Twiggy at 23:01, 10 February 2026

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	At the Autumn Equinox, [[Down_the_cavalier_road#Swords_and_Sorcery\|Lady Nimue de Moraine]] proposed that the [[enchanter\|enchantresses]] of Dawn find five eternals of the Summer realm to patronise the [[Eastern Sky]], granting the army their favour and allowing its general to call on their aid. The enchantresses have until the coming Summer Solstice to decide which regents of the Summer realm they choose and to see if they can agree terms with them. If the scheme comes to fruition, Lady Nimue intends to travel to Anvil for the Summer Solstice, to join her fellow Dawnish magicians in the hour of triumph.		At the Autumn Equinox, [[Down_the_cavalier_road#Swords_and_Sorcery\|Lady Nimue de Moraine]] proposed that the [[enchanter\|enchantresses]] of Dawn find five eternals of the Summer realm to patronise the [[Eastern Sky]], granting the army their favour and allowing its general to call on their aid. The enchantresses have until the coming Summer Solstice to decide which regents of the Summer realm they choose and to see if they can agree terms with them. If the scheme comes to fruition, Lady Nimue intends to travel to Anvil for the Summer Solstice, to join her fellow Dawnish magicians in the hour of triumph.

	However the outcome is not guaranteed. The eternals are the Summer ~~Realm~~ are fickle beings, many of them are prone to tempestuous outbursts. Fortunately one at least, [[Eleonaris]], is well pleased with the Empire at present, and has already indicated that she stands ready to offer her favour to the Eastern Sky. She is said to be delighted with the prospect of her Lion Banner flying alongside those of Dawn, indeed Lady Nimue cautions that if the enchanters of Dawn ''don't'' choose Eleonaris then they had better find a way to handle that very diplomatically indeed...		However the outcome is not guaranteed. The eternals are the Summer realm are fickle beings, many of them are prone to tempestuous outbursts. Fortunately one at least, [[Eleonaris]], is well pleased with the Empire at present, and has already indicated that she stands ready to offer her favour to the Eastern Sky. She is said to be delighted with the prospect of her Lion Banner flying alongside those of Dawn, indeed Lady Nimue cautions that if the enchanters of Dawn ''don't'' choose Eleonaris then they had better find a way to handle that very diplomatically indeed...

	At the other end of the scale [[Hayaak]] has pointedly refused to even entertain Lady Nimue's request. He is ''seething'' with anger, and demands the freshly removed head of '''Ser Edric du Gauvain''' - a tricky feat given the knight passed away three years ago. Presumably his anger might be mollified in some other way, but that looks very difficult at the moment.		At the other end of the scale [[Hayaak]] has pointedly refused to even entertain Lady Nimue's request. He is ''seething'' with anger, and demands the freshly removed head of '''Ser Edric du Gauvain''' - a tricky feat given the knight passed away three years ago. Presumably his anger might be mollified in some other way, but that looks very difficult at the moment.
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	* '''The enchanters and enchantresses of Dawn could choose to favour the Winter eternals over the Summer eternals'''		* '''The enchanters and enchantresses of Dawn could choose to favour the Winter eternals over the Summer eternals'''
	* '''The egregores have suggested a meeting of enchanters and enchantresses to discuss the matter at 2pm on Saturday'''		* '''The egregores have suggested a meeting of enchanters and enchantresses to discuss the matter at 2pm on Saturday'''
	While Lady Nimue and the civil service have put considerable effort into compiling a list of benefits that might arise from winning the favour of the lords and ladies of the Summer ~~Realm~~, they are not the only allies that Dawn might call upon. The Winter ~~Realm~~ is every bit as powerful and terrifying as the Summer ~~Realm~~, but its eternals are far less fickle and tempestuous. Would they make better, more reliable allies? They have certainly helped Dawn before - in [[In_the_lonely_hour#Wolves_and_Brambles\|the Barrens most recently]] and there is at least one prominent Dawnish house widely believed to be on very favourable terms with [[Sorin]] and some members of The Thrice Cursed Court.		While Lady Nimue and the civil service have put considerable effort into compiling a list of benefits that might arise from winning the favour of the lords and ladies of the Summer realm, they are not the only allies that Dawn might call upon. The Winter realm is every bit as powerful and terrifying as the Summer realm, but its eternals are far less fickle and tempestuous. Would they make better, more reliable allies? They have certainly helped Dawn before - in [[In_the_lonely_hour#Wolves_and_Brambles\|the Barrens most recently]] and there is at least one prominent Dawnish house widely believed to be on very favourable terms with [[Sorin]] and some members of The Thrice Cursed Court.

	It would require an amount of work - at least it would if Dawn were going to negotiate with all the Winter eternals. That in itself would be difficult, one of them Skathe, is currently under [[Alignment#Enmity\|enmity]] and might need considerable effort to get that changed. The other of course, is [[Agramant]] - the Ravenous One is always willing to make a deal, but it seems impossible to imagine anyone in the Conclave would permit that, even if it were a good idea. But eternals like Sorin have shown some favour to the Empire before, as have beings like Surut, Tharim, and Wise Rangara. Dawn could approach one or more of them to see if they would consider extending their favour to the Eastern Sky.		It would require an amount of work - at least it would if Dawn were going to negotiate with all the Winter eternals. That in itself would be difficult, one of them Skathe, is currently under [[Alignment#Enmity\|enmity]] and might need considerable effort to get that changed. The other of course, is [[Agramant]] - the Ravenous One is always willing to make a deal, but it seems impossible to imagine anyone in the Conclave would permit that, even if it were a good idea. But eternals like Sorin have shown some favour to the Empire before, as have beings like Surut, Tharim, and Wise Rangara. Dawn could approach one or more of them to see if they would consider extending their favour to the Eastern Sky.

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	[[Jaheris\|The Unicorn Prince]] has indicated that he would be happy to offer his patronage for the Eastern Sky, but not if the army also enjoys the support of Eleonaris. There is an enduring rivalry between the two eternals, which goes back as far as stories themselves, so this is no real surprise. However it does create a clear difficulty - the Empire has built a statue to celebrate The Lion of Summer and in so doing won her affections. While the Moonsilver Prince has indicated that he would be happy to accept a statue of similar proportions providing it was a little taller, that would require a great deal of [[white granite]].		[[Jaheris\|The Unicorn Prince]] has indicated that he would be happy to offer his patronage for the Eastern Sky, but not if the army also enjoys the support of Eleonaris. There is an enduring rivalry between the two eternals, which goes back as far as stories themselves, so this is no real surprise. However it does create a clear difficulty - the Empire has built a statue to celebrate The Lion of Summer and in so doing won her affections. While the Moonsilver Prince has indicated that he would be happy to accept a statue of similar proportions providing it was a little taller, that would require a great deal of [[white granite]].

	What if, someone suggests, the Empire simply changed Eleonaris' statue to show Jaheris rather than Eleonaris? It is the sort of thing [[Night magic]] achieve relatively easily - it has been done before at least twice in [[Sarvos]] apparently. The [[enchantment]] - or [[curse]] - wouldn't last forever, but it would last a year. Rather than needing a [[~~Senate\|~~Senate]] [[commission]] and a huge quantity of white granite, it would just need an enterprising Night coven and a relatively small amount of mana.		What if, someone suggests, the Empire simply changed Eleonaris' statue to show Jaheris rather than Eleonaris? It is the sort of thing [[Night magic]] achieve relatively easily - it has been done before at least twice in [[Sarvos]] apparently. The [[enchantment]] - or [[curse]] - wouldn't last forever, but it would last a year. Rather than needing a [[Senate]] [[commission]] and a huge quantity of white granite, it would just need an enterprising Night coven and a relatively small amount of mana.

	It might not be the best plan to attempt to trick Jaheris, otherwise he might become angry when the enchantment ends. But the Lord of the Forest of Arden hates the Lion of Summer - and this would be the perfect way for him to get one over her. An enterprising witch takes it upon themselves to query the matter with one of the Unicorn Prince's heralds and he is happy to confirm that he would accept being given dominion over Eleonaris' statue in this way. He's not unduly concerned with the enchantment ending, although the longer it stays in place, the happier he will be. But certainly he would eagerly embrace such an offer.		It might not be the best plan to attempt to trick Jaheris, otherwise he might become angry when the enchantment ends. But the Lord of the Forest of Arden hates the Lion of Summer - and this would be the perfect way for him to get one over her. An enterprising witch takes it upon themselves to query the matter with one of the Unicorn Prince's heralds and he is happy to confirm that he would accept being given dominion over Eleonaris' statue in this way. He's not unduly concerned with the enchantment ending, although the longer it stays in place, the happier he will be. But certainly he would eagerly embrace such an offer.

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	[[Jaheris\|The Unicorn Prince]] has indicated that he would be happy to offer his patronage for the Eastern Sky, but not if the army also enjoys the support of Eleonaris. There is an enduring rivalry between the two eternals, which goes back as far as stories themselves, so this is no real surprise. However it does create a clear difficulty - the Empire has built a statue to celebrate The Lion of Summer and in so doing won her affections. While the Moonsilver Prince has indicated that he would be happy to accept a statue of similar proportions providing it was a little taller, that would require a great deal of [[white granite]].		[[Jaheris\|The Unicorn Prince]] has indicated that he would be happy to offer his patronage for the Eastern Sky, but not if the army also enjoys the support of Eleonaris. There is an enduring rivalry between the two eternals, which goes back as far as stories themselves, so this is no real surprise. However it does create a clear difficulty - the Empire has built a statue to celebrate The Lion of Summer and in so doing won her affections. While the Moonsilver Prince has indicated that he would be happy to accept a statue of similar proportions providing it was a little taller, that would require a great deal of [[white granite]].

	What if, someone suggests, the Empire simply changed Eleonaris' statue to show Jaheris rather than Eleonaris? It is the sort of thing [[Night magic]] achieve relatively easily - it has been done before at least twice in [[Sarvos]] apparently. The [[enchantment]] - or [[curse]] - wouldn't last forever, but it would last a year. Rather than needing a [[~~Imperial~~ Senate\|Senate]] [[commission]] and a huge quantity of white granite, it would just need an enterprising Night coven and a relatively small amount of mana.		What if, someone suggests, the Empire simply changed Eleonaris' statue to show Jaheris rather than Eleonaris? It is the sort of thing [[Night magic]] achieve relatively easily - it has been done before at least twice in [[Sarvos]] apparently. The [[enchantment]] - or [[curse]] - wouldn't last forever, but it would last a year. Rather than needing a [[Senate\|Senate]] [[commission]] and a huge quantity of white granite, it would just need an enterprising Night coven and a relatively small amount of mana.

	It might not be the best plan to attempt to trick Jaheris, otherwise he might become angry when the enchantment ends. But the Lord of the Forest of Arden hates the Lion of Summer - and this would be the perfect way for him to get one over her. An enterprising witch takes it upon themselves to query the matter with one of the Unicorn Prince's heralds and he is happy to confirm that he would accept being given dominion over Eleonaris' statue in this way. He's not unduly concerned with the enchantment ending, although the longer it stays in place, the happier he will be. But certainly he would eagerly embrace such an offer.		It might not be the best plan to attempt to trick Jaheris, otherwise he might become angry when the enchantment ends. But the Lord of the Forest of Arden hates the Lion of Summer - and this would be the perfect way for him to get one over her. An enterprising witch takes it upon themselves to query the matter with one of the Unicorn Prince's heralds and he is happy to confirm that he would accept being given dominion over Eleonaris' statue in this way. He's not unduly concerned with the enchantment ending, although the longer it stays in place, the happier he will be. But certainly he would eagerly embrace such an offer.

Thespaceinvader: /* A Change of Season */

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A Change of Season

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	* '''The enchanters and enchantresses of Dawn could choose to favour the Winter eternals over the Summer eternals'''		* '''The enchanters and enchantresses of Dawn could choose to favour the Winter eternals over the Summer eternals'''
	* '''The egregores have suggested a meeting of enchanters and enchantresses to discuss the matter at 2pm on Saturday'''		* '''The egregores have suggested a meeting of enchanters and enchantresses to discuss the matter at 2pm on Saturday'''
	While Lady Nimue and the civil service have put considerable effort into compiling a list of benefits that might arise from winning the favour of the lords and ladies of the Summer Realm, they are not the only allies that Dawn might call upon. The Winter Realm is every bit as powerful and terrifying as the Summer Realm, but its eternals are far less fickle and tempestuous. Would they make better, more reliable allies? They have certainly helped Dawn before - in [[In_the_lonely_hour#Wolves_and_Brambles\|the Barrens most recently]] and there is at least one prominent Dawnish house widely believed to be on very favourable terms with [[Sorin]] and some members of ~~the~~ The Thrice Cursed Court.		While Lady Nimue and the civil service have put considerable effort into compiling a list of benefits that might arise from winning the favour of the lords and ladies of the Summer Realm, they are not the only allies that Dawn might call upon. The Winter Realm is every bit as powerful and terrifying as the Summer Realm, but its eternals are far less fickle and tempestuous. Would they make better, more reliable allies? They have certainly helped Dawn before - in [[In_the_lonely_hour#Wolves_and_Brambles\|the Barrens most recently]] and there is at least one prominent Dawnish house widely believed to be on very favourable terms with [[Sorin]] and some members of The Thrice Cursed Court.

	It would require an amount of work - at least it would if Dawn were going to negotiate with all the Winter eternals. That in itself would be difficult, one of them Skathe, is currently under [[Alignment#Enmity\|enmity]] and might need considerable effort to get that changed. The other of course, is [[Agramant]] - the Ravenous One is always willing to make a deal, but it seems impossible to imagine anyone in the Conclave would permit that, even if it were a good idea. But eternals like Sorin have shown some favour to the Empire before, as have beings like Surut, Tharim, and Wise Rangara. Dawn could approach one or more of them to see if they would consider extending their favour to the Eastern Sky.		It would require an amount of work - at least it would if Dawn were going to negotiate with all the Winter eternals. That in itself would be difficult, one of them Skathe, is currently under [[Alignment#Enmity\|enmity]] and might need considerable effort to get that changed. The other of course, is [[Agramant]] - the Ravenous One is always willing to make a deal, but it seems impossible to imagine anyone in the Conclave would permit that, even if it were a good idea. But eternals like Sorin have shown some favour to the Empire before, as have beings like Surut, Tharim, and Wise Rangara. Dawn could approach one or more of them to see if they would consider extending their favour to the Eastern Sky.

Novemberalice at 21:26, 18 April 2023

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	Tregea's eye narrowed, this sounded useful at last. Nimue had asked him to pump Meraud's door mender for information and he'd be happy enough to do it. But he'd been listening all night to talk of the Sorceress of the Silver Pines and her five scullery boys and frankly he didn't know how much more prattle he could take. Or his wine cellars for that matter. But if he could just keep the fool talking about the Gryphon-King... they might finally find something useful.</ic>		Tregea's eye narrowed, this sounded useful at last. Nimue had asked him to pump Meraud's door mender for information and he'd be happy enough to do it. But he'd been listening all night to talk of the Sorceress of the Silver Pines and her five scullery boys and frankly he didn't know how much more prattle he could take. Or his wine cellars for that matter. But if he could just keep the fool talking about the Gryphon-King... they might finally find something useful.</ic>
	<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Summer in Winter.png\|caption=Two realms and their eternals. One group powerful and hot-headed. One group powerful and cold-hearted.\|align=right\|width=600}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Summer in Winter.png\|caption=Two realms and their eternals. One group powerful and hot-headed. One group powerful and cold-hearted.\|align=right\|width=600}}</div>
			{{audio\|link=https://youtu.be/q0XyrIq01Pw}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	At the Autumn Equinox, [[Down_the_cavalier_road#Swords_and_Sorcery\|Lady Nimue de Moraine]] proposed that the [[enchanter\|enchantresses]] of Dawn find five eternals of the Summer realm to patronise the [[Eastern Sky]], granting the army their favour and allowing its general to call on their aid. The enchantresses have until the coming Summer Solstice to decide which regents of the Summer realm they choose and to see if they can agree terms with them. If the scheme comes to fruition, Lady Nimue intends to travel to Anvil for the Summer Solstice, to join her fellow Dawnish magicians in the hour of triumph.		At the Autumn Equinox, [[Down_the_cavalier_road#Swords_and_Sorcery\|Lady Nimue de Moraine]] proposed that the [[enchanter\|enchantresses]] of Dawn find five eternals of the Summer realm to patronise the [[Eastern Sky]], granting the army their favour and allowing its general to call on their aid. The enchantresses have until the coming Summer Solstice to decide which regents of the Summer realm they choose and to see if they can agree terms with them. If the scheme comes to fruition, Lady Nimue intends to travel to Anvil for the Summer Solstice, to join her fellow Dawnish magicians in the hour of triumph.

Matt at 22:26, 17 April 2023

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	"Well the Golden-Haired One didn't like that one little bit. The Gryphon-King is her... guest? prisoner? ally? Who knows! But clearly she didn't think much of the idea that her the Jotun might reject one she had brought to treat with them. So they ended up agreeing to allow a handful of his heralds to take the field with their kirkja - but it was clear they weren't keen."		"Well the Golden-Haired One didn't like that one little bit. The Gryphon-King is her... guest? prisoner? ally? Who knows! But clearly she didn't think much of the idea that her the Jotun might reject one she had brought to treat with them. So they ended up agreeing to allow a handful of his heralds to take the field with their kirkja - but it was clear they weren't keen."

	Tregea's eye narrowed, this sounded useful at last. Nimue had asked him to pump ~~the~~ Meraud's door mender for information and he'd be happy enough to do it. But he'd been listening all night to talk of the Sorceress of the Silver Pines and her five scullery boys and frankly he didn't know how much more prattle he could take. Or his wine cellars for that matter. But if he could just keep the fool talking about the Gryphon-King... they might finally find something useful.</ic>		Tregea's eye narrowed, this sounded useful at last. Nimue had asked him to pump Meraud's door mender for information and he'd be happy enough to do it. But he'd been listening all night to talk of the Sorceress of the Silver Pines and her five scullery boys and frankly he didn't know how much more prattle he could take. Or his wine cellars for that matter. But if he could just keep the fool talking about the Gryphon-King... they might finally find something useful.</ic>
	<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Summer in Winter.png\|caption=Two realms and their eternals. One group powerful and hot-headed. One group powerful and cold-hearted.\|align=right\|width=600}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Summer in Winter.png\|caption=Two realms and their eternals. One group powerful and hot-headed. One group powerful and cold-hearted.\|align=right\|width=600}}</div>
	==Overview==		==Overview==

Noserenda at 19:47, 17 April 2023

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	"Well the Golden-Haired One didn't like that one little bit. The Gryphon-King is her... guest? prisoner? ally? Who knows! But clearly she didn't think much of the idea that her the Jotun might reject one she had brought to treat with them. So they ended up agreeing to allow a handful of his heralds to take the field with their kirkja - but it was clear they weren't keen."		"Well the Golden-Haired One didn't like that one little bit. The Gryphon-King is her... guest? prisoner? ally? Who knows! But clearly she didn't think much of the idea that her the Jotun might reject one she had brought to treat with them. So they ended up agreeing to allow a handful of his heralds to take the field with their kirkja - but it was clear they weren't keen."

	Tregea's eye narrowed, this sounded useful at last. Nimue had asked him to pump the Meraud's door mender for information and he'd be happy enough to do it. But he'd been listening all night to talk of the Sorceress of the Silver Pines and her five ~~sculliary~~ boys and frankly he didn't know how much more prattle he could take. Or his wine cellars for that matter. But if he could just keep the fool talking about the Gryphon-King... they might finally find something useful.</ic>		Tregea's eye narrowed, this sounded useful at last. Nimue had asked him to pump the Meraud's door mender for information and he'd be happy enough to do it. But he'd been listening all night to talk of the Sorceress of the Silver Pines and her five scullery boys and frankly he didn't know how much more prattle he could take. Or his wine cellars for that matter. But if he could just keep the fool talking about the Gryphon-King... they might finally find something useful.</ic>
	<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Summer in Winter.png\|caption=Two realms and their eternals. One group powerful and hot-headed. One group powerful and cold-hearted.\|align=right\|width=600}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Summer in Winter.png\|caption=Two realms and their eternals. One group powerful and hot-headed. One group powerful and cold-hearted.\|align=right\|width=600}}</div>
	==Overview==		==Overview==

Dre at 19:14, 17 April 2023

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Hailmur: /* A Change of Season */

2023-04-17T19:12:14Z

A Change of Season

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	While Lady Nimue and the civil service have put considerable effort into compiling a list of benefits that might arise from winning the favour of the lords and ladies of the Summer Realm, they are not the only allies that Dawn might call upon. The Winter Realm is every bit as powerful and terrifying as the Summer Realm, but it's eternals are far less fickle and tempestuous. Would they make better, more reliable allies? They have certainly helped Dawn before - in [[In_the_lonely_hour#Wolves_and_Brambles\|the Barrens most recently]] and there is at least one prominent Dawnish house widely believed to be on very favourable terms with [[Sorin]] and some members of the The Thrice Cursed Court.		While Lady Nimue and the civil service have put considerable effort into compiling a list of benefits that might arise from winning the favour of the lords and ladies of the Summer Realm, they are not the only allies that Dawn might call upon. The Winter Realm is every bit as powerful and terrifying as the Summer Realm, but it's eternals are far less fickle and tempestuous. Would they make better, more reliable allies? They have certainly helped Dawn before - in [[In_the_lonely_hour#Wolves_and_Brambles\|the Barrens most recently]] and there is at least one prominent Dawnish house widely believed to be on very favourable terms with [[Sorin]] and some members of the The Thrice Cursed Court.

	It would require an amount of work - at least it would if Dawn were going to negotiate with all the Winter eternals. That in itself would be difficult, one of them Skathe, is currently under [[~~Alignmen~~#Enmity\|enmity]] and might need considerable effort to get that changed. The other of course, is [[Agramant]] - the Ravenous One is always willing to make a deal, but it seems impossible to imagine anyone in the Conclave would permit that, even if it were a good idea. But eternals like Sorin have shown some favour to the Empire before, as have beings like Surut, Tharim, and Wise Rangara. Dawn could approach one or more of them to see if they would consider extending their favour to the Eastern Sky.		It would require an amount of work - at least it would if Dawn were going to negotiate with all the Winter eternals. That in itself would be difficult, one of them Skathe, is currently under [[Alignment#Enmity\|enmity]] and might need considerable effort to get that changed. The other of course, is [[Agramant]] - the Ravenous One is always willing to make a deal, but it seems impossible to imagine anyone in the Conclave would permit that, even if it were a good idea. But eternals like Sorin have shown some favour to the Empire before, as have beings like Surut, Tharim, and Wise Rangara. Dawn could approach one or more of them to see if they would consider extending their favour to the Eastern Sky.

	What categorically won't work is a Winter eternal favouring the Eastern Sky alongside the lords and ladies of the Summer realm. That would be a disaster, assuming it were even possible. The lords of summer might feud with each other, but they don't object to each other's methods. Eleonaris considers Cathan Canae to be a rival, but she respects the Mistress of Blizzards, she won't be angry at the general of the Eastern Sky for calling on that eternals favour. The same cannot be said for a being like Sorin or Kaela, or indeed ''any'' of the Winter eternals. If Dawn wishes to embrace the realm of Winter, it must do so entirely, it cannot pick and choose.		What categorically won't work is a Winter eternal favouring the Eastern Sky alongside the lords and ladies of the Summer realm. That would be a disaster, assuming it were even possible. The lords of summer might feud with each other, but they don't object to each other's methods. Eleonaris considers Cathan Canae to be a rival, but she respects the Mistress of Blizzards, she won't be angry at the general of the Eastern Sky for calling on that eternals favour. The same cannot be said for a being like Sorin or Kaela, or indeed ''any'' of the Winter eternals. If Dawn wishes to embrace the realm of Winter, it must do so entirely, it cannot pick and choose.
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	The egregores of Dawn have suggested that the enchanters and enchantresses of Dawn meet with them at 2pm on Saturday of the summit to discuss the proposal. If those present chose to favour Winter over Summer, then the egregores will let Lady Nimue know and she can take steps accordingly. Even if the Dawnish enchanters and enchantresses choose ''not'' to switch their focus to the WInter realm, this meaning can certainly be used to discuss strategies for attracting the attention of the Summer eternals and negotiating with them in time for the Summer Solstice meeting.		The egregores of Dawn have suggested that the enchanters and enchantresses of Dawn meet with them at 2pm on Saturday of the summit to discuss the proposal. If those present chose to favour Winter over Summer, then the egregores will let Lady Nimue know and she can take steps accordingly. Even if the Dawnish enchanters and enchantresses choose ''not'' to switch their focus to the WInter realm, this meaning can certainly be used to discuss strategies for attracting the attention of the Summer eternals and negotiating with them in time for the Summer Solstice meeting.

	==Further Reading==		==Further Reading==
	* [[Down_the_cavalier_road#Crowns_and_Coronets\|Down the cavalier road]] - 384YE Autumn wind of fortune that introduces the opportunity		* [[Down_the_cavalier_road#Crowns_and_Coronets\|Down the cavalier road]] - 384YE Autumn wind of fortune that introduces the opportunity

Rafferty: /* Overview */

2023-04-17T18:57:44Z

Overview

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	However the outcome is not guaranteed. The eternals are the Summer Realm are fickle beings, many of them are prone to tempestuous outbursts. Fortunately one at least, [[Eleonaris]], is well pleased with the Empire at present, and has already indicated that she stands ready to offer her favour to the Eastern Sky. She is said to be delighted with the prospect of her Lion Banner flying alongside those of Dawn, indeed Lady Nimue cautions that if the enchanters of Dawn ''don't'' choose Eleonaris then they had better find a way to handle that very diplomatically indeed...		However the outcome is not guaranteed. The eternals are the Summer Realm are fickle beings, many of them are prone to tempestuous outbursts. Fortunately one at least, [[Eleonaris]], is well pleased with the Empire at present, and has already indicated that she stands ready to offer her favour to the Eastern Sky. She is said to be delighted with the prospect of her Lion Banner flying alongside those of Dawn, indeed Lady Nimue cautions that if the enchanters of Dawn ''don't'' choose Eleonaris then they had better find a way to handle that very diplomatically indeed...

	At the other end of the scale [[~~ayaak~~]] has pointedly refused to even entertain Lady Nimue's request. He is ''seething'' with anger, and demands the freshly removed head of '''Ser Edric du Gauvain''' - a tricky feat given the knight passed away three years ago. Presumably his anger might be mollified in some other way, but that looks very difficult at the moment.		At the other end of the scale [[Hayaak]] has pointedly refused to even entertain Lady Nimue's request. He is ''seething'' with anger, and demands the freshly removed head of '''Ser Edric du Gauvain''' - a tricky feat given the knight passed away three years ago. Presumably his anger might be mollified in some other way, but that looks very difficult at the moment.

	The other eternals have all indicated that they would be prepared to extend their favour to the army if they have a giant statue made of them (although [[Meraud]] wants assurances that the statue will catch his good side). However a herald of [[Adamant]] cheerfully lets slip that the ''Hordulant One'' has provided his mortal servant, the [[Master of the Koboldi]] with details of an alternative offer...		The other eternals have all indicated that they would be prepared to extend their favour to the army if they have a giant statue made of them (although [[Meraud]] wants assurances that the statue will catch his good side). However a herald of [[Adamant]] cheerfully lets slip that the ''Hordulant One'' has provided his mortal servant, the [[Master of the Koboldi]] with details of an alternative offer...

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	Tregea threw his drinking companion an obvious look of disbelief. ""Why on earth would they do that? I thought you said that the Brother of Lions wasn't asking for anything?"		Tregea threw his drinking companion an obvious look of disbelief. ""Why on earth would they do that? I thought you said that the Brother of Lions wasn't asking for anything?"

	"He wasn't! That's what's so droll", the herald looked around conspiratorially as if someone might be listening in, which was ~~riduculous~~ given they were in Tregea's private rooms. "He was full of rage and fury when their völva met the Queen of the Gradungr. Promising to unleash his gryphon-knights against the Empire, like he did at Jaelwif's Mound."		"He wasn't! That's what's so droll", the herald looked around conspiratorially as if someone might be listening in, which was ridiculous given they were in Tregea's private rooms. "He was full of rage and fury when their völva met the Queen of the Gradungr. Promising to unleash his gryphon-knights against the Empire, like he did at Jaelwif's Mound."

	The enchanter reached over over to fill the herald's glass with her own hand. The herald took a mouthful of the fine wine, savouring the exquisite flavour, before continuing		The enchanter reached over over to fill the herald's glass with her own hand. The herald took a mouthful of the fine wine, savouring the exquisite flavour, before continuing
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	* '''The enchanters and enchantresses of Dawn could choose to favour the Winter eternals over the Summer eternals'''		* '''The enchanters and enchantresses of Dawn could choose to favour the Winter eternals over the Summer eternals'''
	* '''The egregores have suggested a meeting of enchanters and enchantresses to discuss the matter at 2pm on Saturday'''		* '''The egregores have suggested a meeting of enchanters and enchantresses to discuss the matter at 2pm on Saturday'''
	While Lady Nimue and the civil service have put considerable effort into compiling a list of benefits that might arise from winning the favour of the lords and ladies of the Summer Realm, they are not the only allies that Dawn might call upon. The Winter Realm is every bit as powerful and terrifying as the Summer Realm, but ~~it's~~ eternals are far less fickle and tempestuous. Would they make better, more reliable allies? They have certainly helped Dawn before - in [[In_the_lonely_hour#Wolves_and_Brambles\|the Barrens most recently]] and there is at least one prominent Dawnish house widely believed to be on very favourable terms with [[Sorin]] and some members of the The Thrice Cursed Court.		While Lady Nimue and the civil service have put considerable effort into compiling a list of benefits that might arise from winning the favour of the lords and ladies of the Summer Realm, they are not the only allies that Dawn might call upon. The Winter Realm is every bit as powerful and terrifying as the Summer Realm, but its eternals are far less fickle and tempestuous. Would they make better, more reliable allies? They have certainly helped Dawn before - in [[In_the_lonely_hour#Wolves_and_Brambles\|the Barrens most recently]] and there is at least one prominent Dawnish house widely believed to be on very favourable terms with [[Sorin]] and some members of the The Thrice Cursed Court.

	It would require an amount of work - at least it would if Dawn were going to negotiate with all the Winter eternals. That in itself would be difficult, one of them Skathe, is currently under [[Alignment#Enmity\|enmity]] and might need considerable effort to get that changed. The other of course, is [[Agramant]] - the Ravenous One is always willing to make a deal, but it seems impossible to imagine anyone in the Conclave would permit that, even if it were a good idea. But eternals like Sorin have shown some favour to the Empire before, as have beings like Surut, Tharim, and Wise Rangara. Dawn could approach one or more of them to see if they would consider extending their favour to the Eastern Sky.		It would require an amount of work - at least it would if Dawn were going to negotiate with all the Winter eternals. That in itself would be difficult, one of them Skathe, is currently under [[Alignment#Enmity\|enmity]] and might need considerable effort to get that changed. The other of course, is [[Agramant]] - the Ravenous One is always willing to make a deal, but it seems impossible to imagine anyone in the Conclave would permit that, even if it were a good idea. But eternals like Sorin have shown some favour to the Empire before, as have beings like Surut, Tharim, and Wise Rangara. Dawn could approach one or more of them to see if they would consider extending their favour to the Eastern Sky.
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	If the enchantresses and enchanters of Dawn do want to switch their support to the Winter realm, they will need to make a concerted choice to do that. When one door opens... another must close. They would have to give Lady Nimue notice that they intend to approach the eternals of the Winter realm, so that Nimue can use her considerable diplomatic skills to smooth things over with Eleonaris and her peers. It would not do well to be approaching Sorin, or any other Winter eternal whilst also negotiating in good faith with the Summer realm. The only safe way to proceed is to make a decision and chose one path or the other.		If the enchantresses and enchanters of Dawn do want to switch their support to the Winter realm, they will need to make a concerted choice to do that. When one door opens... another must close. They would have to give Lady Nimue notice that they intend to approach the eternals of the Winter realm, so that Nimue can use her considerable diplomatic skills to smooth things over with Eleonaris and her peers. It would not do well to be approaching Sorin, or any other Winter eternal whilst also negotiating in good faith with the Summer realm. The only safe way to proceed is to make a decision and chose one path or the other.

	The egregores of Dawn have suggested that the enchanters and enchantresses of Dawn meet with them at 2pm on Saturday of the summit to discuss the proposal. If those present chose to favour Winter over Summer, then the egregores will let Lady Nimue know and she can take steps accordingly. Even if the Dawnish enchanters and enchantresses choose ''not'' to switch their focus to the ~~WInter~~ realm, this meaning can certainly be used to discuss strategies for attracting the attention of the Summer eternals and negotiating with them in time for the Summer Solstice meeting.		The egregores of Dawn have suggested that the enchanters and enchantresses of Dawn meet with them at 2pm on Saturday of the summit to discuss the proposal. If those present chose to favour Winter over Summer, then the egregores will let Lady Nimue know and she can take steps accordingly. Even if the Dawnish enchanters and enchantresses choose ''not'' to switch their focus to the Winter realm, this meaning can certainly be used to discuss strategies for attracting the attention of the Summer eternals and negotiating with them in time for the Summer Solstice meeting.

	==Further Reading==		==Further Reading==
	* [[Down_the_cavalier_road#Crowns_and_Coronets\|Down the cavalier road]] - 384YE Autumn wind of fortune that introduces the opportunity		* [[Down_the_cavalier_road#Crowns_and_Coronets\|Down the cavalier road]] - 384YE Autumn wind of fortune that introduces the opportunity