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Matt: Text replacement - "Synod" to "Synod"

2026-01-16T09:38:11Z

Text replacement - "Synod" to "Synod"

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	If this Senate motion is passed then the title of Warmage will still become an Urizeni national position as above, but it would be a [[Appointments_by_the_Senate#National_Position\|regular Senate appointment]]. That means that once vacant it could be appointed at any time by a unanimous vote of Urizeni senators, or by Senate motion of appointment (in the same way that a nation's generals are appointed).		If this Senate motion is passed then the title of Warmage will still become an Urizeni national position as above, but it would be a [[Appointments_by_the_Senate#National_Position\|regular Senate appointment]]. That means that once vacant it could be appointed at any time by a unanimous vote of Urizeni senators, or by Senate motion of appointment (in the same way that a nation's generals are appointed).

	As always, it is possible that alternative approaches could be valid, but the Court have considered and ruled out any possibility that the [[~~Synod\|~~Synod]], [[Bourse]] or [[Military Council]] could be given the power to appoint the Warmage. Any change of this kind is substantial and significant, it fundamentally alters the power of the Conclave as well as the title. As such either motion would require a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass, meaning it would require a two-thirds majority of the elected senators, [[The Throne#Ratification\|ratification]] by the Throne and could be [[veto\|vetoed]] by the General Assembly or the Assembly of Nine.		As always, it is possible that alternative approaches could be valid, but the Court have considered and ruled out any possibility that the [[Synod]], [[Bourse]] or [[Military Council]] could be given the power to appoint the Warmage. Any change of this kind is substantial and significant, it fundamentally alters the power of the Conclave as well as the title. As such either motion would require a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass, meaning it would require a two-thirds majority of the elected senators, [[The Throne#Ratification\|ratification]] by the Throne and could be [[veto\|vetoed]] by the General Assembly or the Assembly of Nine.

	Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.		Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.

Matt: Text replacement - "Bourse" to "Bourse"

2026-01-16T09:36:49Z

Text replacement - "Bourse" to "Bourse"

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	If this Senate motion is passed then the title of Warmage will still become an Urizeni national position as above, but it would be a [[Appointments_by_the_Senate#National_Position\|regular Senate appointment]]. That means that once vacant it could be appointed at any time by a unanimous vote of Urizeni senators, or by Senate motion of appointment (in the same way that a nation's generals are appointed).		If this Senate motion is passed then the title of Warmage will still become an Urizeni national position as above, but it would be a [[Appointments_by_the_Senate#National_Position\|regular Senate appointment]]. That means that once vacant it could be appointed at any time by a unanimous vote of Urizeni senators, or by Senate motion of appointment (in the same way that a nation's generals are appointed).

	As always, it is possible that alternative approaches could be valid, but the Court have considered and ruled out any possibility that the [[Synod\|Synod]], [[~~Bourse\|~~Bourse]] or [[Military Council]] could be given the power to appoint the Warmage. Any change of this kind is substantial and significant, it fundamentally alters the power of the Conclave as well as the title. As such either motion would require a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass, meaning it would require a two-thirds majority of the elected senators, [[The Throne#Ratification\|ratification]] by the Throne and could be [[veto\|vetoed]] by the General Assembly or the Assembly of Nine.		As always, it is possible that alternative approaches could be valid, but the Court have considered and ruled out any possibility that the [[Synod\|Synod]], [[Bourse]] or [[Military Council]] could be given the power to appoint the Warmage. Any change of this kind is substantial and significant, it fundamentally alters the power of the Conclave as well as the title. As such either motion would require a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass, meaning it would require a two-thirds majority of the elected senators, [[The Throne#Ratification\|ratification]] by the Throne and could be [[veto\|vetoed]] by the General Assembly or the Assembly of Nine.

	Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.		Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Synod" to "[[Synod"

2026-01-15T22:09:05Z

Text replacement - "[[Imperial Synod" to "[[Synod"

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	If this Senate motion is passed then the title of Warmage will still become an Urizeni national position as above, but it would be a [[Appointments_by_the_Senate#National_Position\|regular Senate appointment]]. That means that once vacant it could be appointed at any time by a unanimous vote of Urizeni senators, or by Senate motion of appointment (in the same way that a nation's generals are appointed).		If this Senate motion is passed then the title of Warmage will still become an Urizeni national position as above, but it would be a [[Appointments_by_the_Senate#National_Position\|regular Senate appointment]]. That means that once vacant it could be appointed at any time by a unanimous vote of Urizeni senators, or by Senate motion of appointment (in the same way that a nation's generals are appointed).

	As always, it is possible that alternative approaches could be valid, but the Court have considered and ruled out any possibility that the [[~~Imperial~~ Synod\|Synod]], [[Bourse\|Bourse]] or [[Military Council]] could be given the power to appoint the Warmage. Any change of this kind is substantial and significant, it fundamentally alters the power of the Conclave as well as the title. As such either motion would require a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass, meaning it would require a two-thirds majority of the elected senators, [[The Throne#Ratification\|ratification]] by the Throne and could be [[veto\|vetoed]] by the General Assembly or the Assembly of Nine.		As always, it is possible that alternative approaches could be valid, but the Court have considered and ruled out any possibility that the [[Synod\|Synod]], [[Bourse\|Bourse]] or [[Military Council]] could be given the power to appoint the Warmage. Any change of this kind is substantial and significant, it fundamentally alters the power of the Conclave as well as the title. As such either motion would require a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass, meaning it would require a two-thirds majority of the elected senators, [[The Throne#Ratification\|ratification]] by the Throne and could be [[veto\|vetoed]] by the General Assembly or the Assembly of Nine.

	Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.		Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Senate" to "[[Senate"

2026-01-15T15:05:58Z

Text replacement - "[[Imperial Senate" to "[[Senate"

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	<div style="float:left; width: 450px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Andronikos8735.png\|caption=The current Warmage is Urizeni, and there is a chance that all their successors will be, as well.\|align=left\|width=450}}</div> {{audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFm5gfemtMg}}		<div style="float:left; width: 450px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Andronikos8735.png\|caption=The current Warmage is Urizeni, and there is a chance that all their successors will be, as well.\|align=left\|width=450}}</div> {{audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFm5gfemtMg}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	There is open rebellion in [[Spiral]], as many of the inhabitants [[A_question_of_loyalty\|struggle to accept the striking change of circumstances]], following the allocation of the territory to [[the League]]. That decision angered many loyal [[Urizen\|Urizeni]] who had remained in the territory enduring the rule of the [[Grendel]] enduring the malign influence of the {{Black Plateau}}, in hope of the day they would be reunited with their nation. The [[~~Imperial~~ Senate]] may have felt Salt Lord Kaliact's offer to betray the Grendel was too good to pass up, but many did not agree and [[spire\|spires]] in [[Spiral#Ankra\|Ankra]] and [[Spiral#Cinion\|Cinion]] took up arms in protest, openly seceding from the Empire and daring them to do anything about it.		There is open rebellion in [[Spiral]], as many of the inhabitants [[A_question_of_loyalty\|struggle to accept the striking change of circumstances]], following the allocation of the territory to [[the League]]. That decision angered many loyal [[Urizen\|Urizeni]] who had remained in the territory enduring the rule of the [[Grendel]] enduring the malign influence of the {{Black Plateau}}, in hope of the day they would be reunited with their nation. The [[Senate]] may have felt Salt Lord Kaliact's offer to betray the Grendel was too good to pass up, but many did not agree and [[spire\|spires]] in [[Spiral#Ankra\|Ankra]] and [[Spiral#Cinion\|Cinion]] took up arms in protest, openly seceding from the Empire and daring them to do anything about it.

	Keen to avoid the rebellion spreading, the Empire has made concerted efforts to meet the rebels demands where they can. Those who were [[A_question_of_loyalty#Spires\|loyal to their spire]] have [[Blue_flowers_in_the_snow#Price_of_Remaining\|been given a way to keep living in Spiral]] with the aid of the [[Sung\|Rainbow Serpent]]. Now that the bountiful mana from Lorenzo's legacies [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Senate_sessions#League_Crystal_Mana_to_Spiral\|is flowing into Spiral]] the territory is becoming richer and more prosperous than it has ever been. Those Urizeni magicians who are content to live in the League territory of Spiral are keeping to themselves for the time being, since the [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Synod_judgements#Judgement_27\|mandate encouraging cooperation was withdrawn]], but it is clear that they are largely content with the new settlement.		Keen to avoid the rebellion spreading, the Empire has made concerted efforts to meet the rebels demands where they can. Those who were [[A_question_of_loyalty#Spires\|loyal to their spire]] have [[Blue_flowers_in_the_snow#Price_of_Remaining\|been given a way to keep living in Spiral]] with the aid of the [[Sung\|Rainbow Serpent]]. Now that the bountiful mana from Lorenzo's legacies [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Senate_sessions#League_Crystal_Mana_to_Spiral\|is flowing into Spiral]] the territory is becoming richer and more prosperous than it has ever been. Those Urizeni magicians who are content to live in the League territory of Spiral are keeping to themselves for the time being, since the [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Synod_judgements#Judgement_27\|mandate encouraging cooperation was withdrawn]], but it is clear that they are largely content with the new settlement.

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Bourse" to "[[Bourse"

2026-01-15T13:50:38Z

Text replacement - "[[Imperial Bourse" to "[[Bourse"

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	If this Senate motion is passed then the title of Warmage will still become an Urizeni national position as above, but it would be a [[Appointments_by_the_Senate#National_Position\|regular Senate appointment]]. That means that once vacant it could be appointed at any time by a unanimous vote of Urizeni senators, or by Senate motion of appointment (in the same way that a nation's generals are appointed).		If this Senate motion is passed then the title of Warmage will still become an Urizeni national position as above, but it would be a [[Appointments_by_the_Senate#National_Position\|regular Senate appointment]]. That means that once vacant it could be appointed at any time by a unanimous vote of Urizeni senators, or by Senate motion of appointment (in the same way that a nation's generals are appointed).

	As always, it is possible that alternative approaches could be valid, but the Court have considered and ruled out any possibility that the [[Imperial Synod\|Synod]], [[~~Imperial~~ Bourse\|Bourse]] or [[Military Council]] could be given the power to appoint the Warmage. Any change of this kind is substantial and significant, it fundamentally alters the power of the Conclave as well as the title. As such either motion would require a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass, meaning it would require a two-thirds majority of the elected senators, [[The Throne#Ratification\|ratification]] by the Throne and could be [[veto\|vetoed]] by the General Assembly or the Assembly of Nine.		As always, it is possible that alternative approaches could be valid, but the Court have considered and ruled out any possibility that the [[Imperial Synod\|Synod]], [[Bourse\|Bourse]] or [[Military Council]] could be given the power to appoint the Warmage. Any change of this kind is substantial and significant, it fundamentally alters the power of the Conclave as well as the title. As such either motion would require a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass, meaning it would require a two-thirds majority of the elected senators, [[The Throne#Ratification\|ratification]] by the Throne and could be [[veto\|vetoed]] by the General Assembly or the Assembly of Nine.

	Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.		Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.

Hailmur: Text replacement - "Military Council" to "Military Council"

2026-01-15T13:19:32Z

Text replacement - "Military Council" to "Military Council"

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	If this Senate motion is passed then the title of Warmage will still become an Urizeni national position as above, but it would be a [[Appointments_by_the_Senate#National_Position\|regular Senate appointment]]. That means that once vacant it could be appointed at any time by a unanimous vote of Urizeni senators, or by Senate motion of appointment (in the same way that a nation's generals are appointed).		If this Senate motion is passed then the title of Warmage will still become an Urizeni national position as above, but it would be a [[Appointments_by_the_Senate#National_Position\|regular Senate appointment]]. That means that once vacant it could be appointed at any time by a unanimous vote of Urizeni senators, or by Senate motion of appointment (in the same way that a nation's generals are appointed).

	As always, it is possible that alternative approaches could be valid, but the Court have considered and ruled out any possibility that the [[Imperial Synod\|Synod]], [[Imperial Bourse\|Bourse]] or [[~~Imperial Military Council\|~~Military Council]] could be given the power to appoint the Warmage. Any change of this kind is substantial and significant, it fundamentally alters the power of the Conclave as well as the title. As such either motion would require a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass, meaning it would require a two-thirds majority of the elected senators, [[The Throne#Ratification\|ratification]] by the Throne and could be [[veto\|vetoed]] by the General Assembly or the Assembly of Nine.		As always, it is possible that alternative approaches could be valid, but the Court have considered and ruled out any possibility that the [[Imperial Synod\|Synod]], [[Imperial Bourse\|Bourse]] or [[Military Council]] could be given the power to appoint the Warmage. Any change of this kind is substantial and significant, it fundamentally alters the power of the Conclave as well as the title. As such either motion would require a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] to pass, meaning it would require a two-thirds majority of the elected senators, [[The Throne#Ratification\|ratification]] by the Throne and could be [[veto\|vetoed]] by the General Assembly or the Assembly of Nine.

	Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.		Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.

Hailmur at 21:16, 6 May 2025

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Hailmur at 10:57, 10 June 2024

2024-06-10T10:57:17Z

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	As the Court failed to provide this advice in advance of the Senator submitting their motion, I suggest we ask the Speakers to raise a pair of administrative motions for the Senate to consider if either of these constitutional options is acceptable to them. That seems the fairest given the circumstances, plus it'll wind up any number of Constitutional scholars which is an added bonus (don't publish this bit!).</quote>		As the Court failed to provide this advice in advance of the Senator submitting their motion, I suggest we ask the Speakers to raise a pair of administrative motions for the Senate to consider if either of these constitutional options is acceptable to them. That seems the fairest given the circumstances, plus it'll wind up any number of Constitutional scholars which is an added bonus (don't publish this bit!).</quote>

			==Homecoming (Conjunction)==
			* '''A force of Grendel mercenaries have been found sheltering near the {{Black Plateau}}
			* '''This skirmish is a [[Accessibility#Combat_Highly_Likely\|combat highly likely]] encounter
			* '''The ''Oblivion Sentinel'' is responsible for killing the Grendel
			''Iontach Erin'' was at one point a promising magician in the employ of Merchant Prince Kaliact; paid to oversee {{Black Plateau}} and ensure that nobody went too close to the malign heart of Spiral. ''Erin'' went missing during the political coup that saw Kaliact and other Apulians join the League. Nobody knew where she might have gone and the disappearance was chalked up as just another victim of the {{Black Plateau}}. Until ''Shadowsong'', an enigmatic herald of the [[Sung\|Rainbow Serpent]], called on the Oblivion Sentinel to keep to their promise to deal with any threat associated with the {{Black Plateau}}. ''Shadowsong'' can't (or won't) explain why the Grendel have been sheltering so close to the hateful core of the territory.

			''Shadowsong'' has asked that the [[Oblivion Sentinel]], '''Floria Sunshaper''', take responsibility for leading a force of Imperials to deal with this threat associated with the {{Black Plateau}} and kill the Grendel who have sheltered in its wake.

			==Misdirections (Conjunction)==
			* '''A force of Grendel mercenaries are moving to attack the Legacy
			* '''This skirmish is a [[Accessibility#Combat_Highly_Likely\|combat highly likely]] encounter'''
			* '''The ''Custodian of the Legacy'' is responsible for stopping the Grendel
			''Maistir Orla'' was head of one of the many mercenary companies hired by ''Paymaster Muireall'' for her ill-fated [[Roll and fall\|raid on Tsark]]. Orla and most of her company survived the raid and were part of Muireall's [[Wild_blue_yonder#A_Breakaway_Enclave\|enclave]], which the magistrates shut down shortly after the peace treaty ended. The militia sent to break the enclave did not find Maistir Orla during the raid on the encampment and until now everyone had assumed that Orla and the rest of her mercenary company had either fled across the mountains to Mareave or fallen victim to the feral beasts that contribute to the dangers of Spiral.

			Now, thanks to a patrol from the [[Spiral#Ballaghadruh\|Ballaghadruh]], they have been found making their way towards the [[Legacy]]. Following divination rituals the civil service believe that the mercenary company is planning to raid the Legacy and loot as much of the harvested mithril as they can before disappearing back into the wilds of Spiral. Given that this is a direct threat to the Legacy it is the responsibility of the incumbent, '''Taskel Di Apulian''', to stop the Grendel.

			<box><big>'''{{Black Plateau}}'''</big><br>
			All characters on both the ''Homecoming'' and ''Misdirections'' skirmishes will be under the effect of [[Calls#WEAKNESS\|WEAKNESS]] that cannot be removed whilst on the skirmish and experience heightened emotions unless they:
			* Expend a hero point upon entering the area
			* Are subject to an anointing
			* Overcome the oppression using their [[Cambion#Roleplaying_Cambion\|cambion]] lineage
			* Are bonded to a magical item or have a ritual enchantment that mitigates effects like these
			</box>

Novemberalice at 09:19, 6 June 2024

2024-06-06T09:19:56Z

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	"Of course it will..." he grinned at his old friend. "That's what will make this assignment so much fun!"		"Of course it will..." he grinned at his old friend. "That's what will make this assignment so much fun!"
	</ic>		</ic>
	<div style="float:left; width: 450px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Andronikos8735.png\|caption=The current Warmage is Urizeni, and there is a chance that all their successors will be, as well.\|align=left\|width=450}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 450px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Andronikos8735.png\|caption=The current Warmage is Urizeni, and there is a chance that all their successors will be, as well.\|align=left\|width=450}}</div> {{audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFm5gfemtMg}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	There is open rebellion in [[Spiral]], as many of the inhabitants [[A_question_of_loyalty\|struggle to accept the striking change of circumstances]], following the allocation of the territory to [[the League]]. That decision angered many loyal [[Urizen\|Urizeni]] who had remained in the territory enduring the rule of the [[Grendel]] enduring the malign influence of the {{Black Plateau}}, in hope of the day they would be reunited with their nation. The [[Imperial Senate]] may have felt Salt Lord Kaliact's offer to betray the Grendel was too good to pass up, but many did not agree and [[spire\|spires]] in [[Urizen#Ankra\|Ankra]] and [[urizen#Cinion\|Cinion]] took up arms in protest, openly seceding from the Empire and daring them to do anything about it.		There is open rebellion in [[Spiral]], as many of the inhabitants [[A_question_of_loyalty\|struggle to accept the striking change of circumstances]], following the allocation of the territory to [[the League]]. That decision angered many loyal [[Urizen\|Urizeni]] who had remained in the territory enduring the rule of the [[Grendel]] enduring the malign influence of the {{Black Plateau}}, in hope of the day they would be reunited with their nation. The [[Imperial Senate]] may have felt Salt Lord Kaliact's offer to betray the Grendel was too good to pass up, but many did not agree and [[spire\|spires]] in [[Urizen#Ankra\|Ankra]] and [[urizen#Cinion\|Cinion]] took up arms in protest, openly seceding from the Empire and daring them to do anything about it.

Hailmur at 00:37, 1 June 2024

2024-06-01T00:37:35Z

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	<div style="float:left; width: 450px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Andronikos8735.png\|caption=The current Warmage is Urizeni, and there is a chance that all their successors will be, as well.\|align=left\|width=450}}</div> {{audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFm5gfemtMg}}		<div style="float:left; width: 450px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Andronikos8735.png\|caption=The current Warmage is Urizeni, and there is a chance that all their successors will be, as well.\|align=left\|width=450}}</div> {{audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFm5gfemtMg}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	There is open rebellion in [[Spiral]], as many of the inhabitants [[A_question_of_loyalty\|struggle to accept the striking change of circumstances]], following the allocation of the territory to [[the League]]. That decision angered many loyal [[Urizen\|Urizeni]] who had remained in the territory enduring the rule of the [[Grendel]] enduring the malign influence of the {{Black Plateau}}, in hope of the day they would be reunited with their nation. The [[Imperial Senate]] may have felt Salt Lord Kaliact's offer to betray the Grendel was too good to pass up, but many did not agree and [[spire\|spires]] in [[~~Urizen~~#Ankra\|Ankra]] and [[~~urizen~~#Cinion\|Cinion]] took up arms in protest, openly seceding from the Empire and daring them to do anything about it.		There is open rebellion in [[Spiral]], as many of the inhabitants [[A_question_of_loyalty\|struggle to accept the striking change of circumstances]], following the allocation of the territory to [[the League]]. That decision angered many loyal [[Urizen\|Urizeni]] who had remained in the territory enduring the rule of the [[Grendel]] enduring the malign influence of the {{Black Plateau}}, in hope of the day they would be reunited with their nation. The [[Imperial Senate]] may have felt Salt Lord Kaliact's offer to betray the Grendel was too good to pass up, but many did not agree and [[spire\|spires]] in [[Spiral#Ankra\|Ankra]] and [[Spiral#Cinion\|Cinion]] took up arms in protest, openly seceding from the Empire and daring them to do anything about it.

	Keen to avoid the rebellion spreading, the Empire has made concerted efforts to meet the rebels demands where they can. Those who were [[A_question_of_loyalty#Spires\|loyal to their spire]] have [[Blue_flowers_in_the_snow#Price_of_Remaining\|been given a way to keep living in Spiral]] with the aid of the [[Sung\|Rainbow Serpent]]. Now that the bountiful mana from Lorenzo's legacies [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Senate_sessions#League_Crystal_Mana_to_Spiral\|is flowing into Spiral]] the territory is becoming richer and more prosperous than it has ever been. Those Urizeni magicians who are content to live in the League territory of Spiral are keeping to themselves for the time being, since the [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Synod_judgements#Judgement_27\|mandate encouraging cooperation was withdrawn]], but it is clear that they are largely content with the new settlement.		Keen to avoid the rebellion spreading, the Empire has made concerted efforts to meet the rebels demands where they can. Those who were [[A_question_of_loyalty#Spires\|loyal to their spire]] have [[Blue_flowers_in_the_snow#Price_of_Remaining\|been given a way to keep living in Spiral]] with the aid of the [[Sung\|Rainbow Serpent]]. Now that the bountiful mana from Lorenzo's legacies [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Senate_sessions#League_Crystal_Mana_to_Spiral\|is flowing into Spiral]] the territory is becoming richer and more prosperous than it has ever been. Those Urizeni magicians who are content to live in the League territory of Spiral are keeping to themselves for the time being, since the [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Synod_judgements#Judgement_27\|mandate encouraging cooperation was withdrawn]], but it is clear that they are largely content with the new settlement.
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	* '''The Imperial Senate passed a motion declaring that the Warmage would be appointed by Urizeni generals'''		* '''The Imperial Senate passed a motion declaring that the Warmage would be appointed by Urizeni generals'''
	* '''The Constitutional Court have announced that this motion has failed scrutiny, but offered administrative motions for two alternative that would pass scrutiny if they were acceptable to the Senate'''		* '''The Constitutional Court have announced that this motion has failed scrutiny, but offered administrative motions for two alternative that would pass scrutiny if they were acceptable to the Senate'''
	* '''If the Senate passes either motion then the Empire will regain control of ~~Cinion~~ as more than half the rebels stand down'''		* '''If the Senate passes either motion then the Empire will regain control of Ankra as more than half the rebels stand down'''
	* '''Either motion would constitute a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] requiring a two thirds majority and ratification by the Throne'''		* '''Either motion would constitute a [[Senate_motion#Constitutional_Vote\|constitutional vote]] requiring a two thirds majority and ratification by the Throne'''

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	In any case, if the Imperial Senate pass a legal motion to make the [[Warmage]] an Urizeni national position, then Tiborion of the Endless Horizen has confirmed that he and those magicians who follow his lead will give up their rebellion. They will move to Zenith, [[Morrow]] or [[Redoubt]] and once there petition to rejoin the Empire.		In any case, if the Imperial Senate pass a legal motion to make the [[Warmage]] an Urizeni national position, then Tiborion of the Endless Horizen has confirmed that he and those magicians who follow his lead will give up their rebellion. They will move to Zenith, [[Morrow]] or [[Redoubt]] and once there petition to rejoin the Empire.

	With Actius, Arbiter of the Deathless Cave, already satisfied, that would more than halve the number of remaining rebels. The Empire would regain control of ~~Cinion~~ leaving only ~~Ankra~~ in the hands of those rebels still holding out.		With Actius, Arbiter of the Deathless Cave, already satisfied, that would more than halve the number of remaining rebels. The Empire would regain control of Ankra leaving only Cinion in the hands of those rebels still holding out.

	==Belligerence==		==Belligerence==
	* '''Caela of the Silver Flame and her fellow rebels would remain in control of ~~Ankra~~ regardless of what else happens'''		* '''Caela of the Silver Flame and her fellow rebels would remain in control of Cinion regardless of what else happens'''
	Unfortunately that would still leave Caela of the Silver Flame and her supporters who are demanding that Spiral be returned to Urizen. It's almost impossible to see how such demands might be accommodated at this stage. There is no room for compromise on the core issue that offends them, no [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_possible_agreement visible space for common ground]. Given the support the rest of Urizen have expressed, sending in the army to root them out would be disastrous, but short of that, it's impossible to see the situation getting resolved.		Unfortunately that would still leave Caela of the Silver Flame and her supporters who are demanding that Spiral be returned to Urizen. It's almost impossible to see how such demands might be accommodated at this stage. There is no room for compromise on the core issue that offends them, no [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_possible_agreement visible space for common ground]. Given the support the rest of Urizen have expressed, sending in the army to root them out would be disastrous, but short of that, it's impossible to see the situation getting resolved.

	That means that ~~Ankra~~ remains in open revolt and is not considered to be under Imperial control at this time. The Empire could choose to live with that, given that there is little of significant economic value in the region. Not controlling the entire territory has strategic implications, but the Military Council could chose to ignore that obvious risk.		That means that Cinion remains in open revolt and is not considered to be under Imperial control at this time. The Empire could choose to live with that, given that there is little of significant economic value in the region. Not controlling the entire territory has strategic implications, but the Military Council could chose to ignore that obvious risk.

	Crucially Emperor Vesna's address has created the potential to leave Caela and her followers isolated, ensuring there is little chance of their revolt spreading unless they receive significant outside support. Even if they do, the rebels have made it clear that they have no intention of attacking the Empire - that would be madness. Their plan is to wait for the Grendel to invade Spiral, conquer the territory and then hope to have it reassigned to Urizen if and when the Empire retakes the territory.		Crucially Emperor Vesna's address has created the potential to leave Caela and her followers isolated, ensuring there is little chance of their revolt spreading unless they receive significant outside support. Even if they do, the rebels have made it clear that they have no intention of attacking the Empire - that would be madness. Their plan is to wait for the Grendel to invade Spiral, conquer the territory and then hope to have it reassigned to Urizen if and when the Empire retakes the territory.

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	That was deemed too expensive, but a counter-proposal to make the [[Warmage]] an Urizeni position was well received by the rebels. An [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Senate_sessions#Amend_Imperial_Warmage\|initial attempt to do just that]] foundered in [[scrutiny]], but the [[Scrutiny#Constitutional_Court\|Constitutional Court]] have asked the [[Speaker for the Senate]] to raise [[Senate_motion#Administrative_Motions\|administrative motions]] that could allow the Senate to achieve their goals if they are satisfied with either of the two solutions.		That was deemed too expensive, but a counter-proposal to make the [[Warmage]] an Urizeni position was well received by the rebels. An [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Senate_sessions#Amend_Imperial_Warmage\|initial attempt to do just that]] foundered in [[scrutiny]], but the [[Scrutiny#Constitutional_Court\|Constitutional Court]] have asked the [[Speaker for the Senate]] to raise [[Senate_motion#Administrative_Motions\|administrative motions]] that could allow the Senate to achieve their goals if they are satisfied with either of the two solutions.

	This approach, in combination with the [[Promising light\|inaugural address]] of the new Throne, presents a clear opportunity to address the concerns of a key group of rebels leaving only ~~Caeli~~ of the Silver Flame to be dealt with.		This approach, in combination with the [[Promising light\|inaugural address]] of the new Throne, presents a clear opportunity to address the concerns of a key group of rebels leaving only Caela of the Silver Flame to be dealt with.

	==Conciliation==		==Conciliation==
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	Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.		Furthermore, the Constitutional Court advise that it is ''always'' impossible to have a position be appointed by Urizeni electors without that title being an Urizeni national position, with all the accompanying implications. That means that if the Senate want to use the Warmage to meet the demands of the Spiral rebels in this way, they will have to alter the title so that only an Urizeni citizen can assume the position.

	In any case, if the Imperial Senate pass a legal motion to make the [[Warmage]] an Urizeni national position, then Tiborion of the Endless ~~Horizon~~ has confirmed that he and those magicians who follow his lead will give up their rebellion. They will move to Zenith, [[Morrow]] or [[Redoubt]] and once there petition to rejoin the Empire.		In any case, if the Imperial Senate pass a legal motion to make the [[Warmage]] an Urizeni national position, then Tiborion of the Endless Horizen has confirmed that he and those magicians who follow his lead will give up their rebellion. They will move to Zenith, [[Morrow]] or [[Redoubt]] and once there petition to rejoin the Empire.

	With Actius, Arbiter of the Deathless Cave, already satisfied, that would more than halve the number of remaining rebels. The Empire would regain control of Cinion leaving only Ankra in the hands of those rebels still holding out.		With Actius, Arbiter of the Deathless Cave, already satisfied, that would more than halve the number of remaining rebels. The Empire would regain control of Cinion leaving only Ankra in the hands of those rebels still holding out.

	==Belligerence==		==Belligerence==
	* '''~~Caeli~~ of the Silver Flame and her fellow rebels would remain in control of Ankra regardless of what else happens'''		* '''Caela of the Silver Flame and her fellow rebels would remain in control of Ankra regardless of what else happens'''
	Unfortunately that would still leave ~~Caeli~~ of the Silver Flame and her supporters who are demanding that Spiral be returned to Urizen. It's almost impossible to see how such demands might be accommodated at this stage. There is no room for compromise on the core issue that offends them, no [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_possible_agreement visible space for common ground]. Given the support the rest of Urizen have expressed, sending in the army to root them out would be disastrous, but short of that, it's impossible to see the situation getting resolved.		Unfortunately that would still leave Caela of the Silver Flame and her supporters who are demanding that Spiral be returned to Urizen. It's almost impossible to see how such demands might be accommodated at this stage. There is no room for compromise on the core issue that offends them, no [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_possible_agreement visible space for common ground]. Given the support the rest of Urizen have expressed, sending in the army to root them out would be disastrous, but short of that, it's impossible to see the situation getting resolved.

	That means that Ankra remains in open revolt and is not considered to be under Imperial control at this time. The Empire could choose to live with that, given that there is little of significant economic value in the region. Not controlling the entire territory has strategic implications, but the Military Council could chose to ignore that obvious risk.		That means that Ankra remains in open revolt and is not considered to be under Imperial control at this time. The Empire could choose to live with that, given that there is little of significant economic value in the region. Not controlling the entire territory has strategic implications, but the Military Council could chose to ignore that obvious risk.

	Crucially Emperor Vesna's address has created the potential to leave ~~Caeli~~ and her followers isolated, ensuring there is little chance of their revolt spreading unless they receive significant outside support. Even if they do, the rebels have made it clear that they have no intention of attacking the Empire - that would be madness. Their plan is to wait for the Grendel to invade Spiral, conquer the territory and then hope to have it reassigned to Urizen if and when the Empire retakes the territory.		Crucially Emperor Vesna's address has created the potential to leave Caela and her followers isolated, ensuring there is little chance of their revolt spreading unless they receive significant outside support. Even if they do, the rebels have made it clear that they have no intention of attacking the Empire - that would be madness. Their plan is to wait for the Grendel to invade Spiral, conquer the territory and then hope to have it reassigned to Urizen if and when the Empire retakes the territory.

	It's not exactly a great plan, but arguably they have even less options for resolving this confrontation than the Empire do and it does at least mean they are unlikely to cause the current situation to escalate. The Civil Service can offer no suggestions on what could be done to improve on the situation for now, pending more information on the rebels and what they want. Hopefully the decision of the Grandmaster of the Shuttered Lantern to send their order [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Conclave_sessions#Concord:_Shuttered_Lantern_to_Spiral\|to investigate the situation]] will provide new insight - but how much of that insight they choose to share will be up to them.		It's not exactly a great plan, but arguably they have even less options for resolving this confrontation than the Empire do and it does at least mean they are unlikely to cause the current situation to escalate. The Civil Service can offer no suggestions on what could be done to improve on the situation for now, pending more information on the rebels and what they want. Hopefully the decision of the Grandmaster of the Shuttered Lantern to send their order [[385YE_Winter_Solstice_Conclave_sessions#Concord:_Shuttered_Lantern_to_Spiral\|to investigate the situation]] will provide new insight - but how much of that insight they choose to share will be up to them.