The price of peace - Revision history

Twiggy at 02:31, 22 January 2026

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	Each of these nations maintains armies and in the case of the Grendel, navies of their own. Though each has their own strengths and weaknesses, with the possible exception of the Iron Confederacy, they are not as powerful as the Empire. If the orc nations ever united their armies would outnumber the Empire, but such occurrences are rare, for the most part, the barbarians dislike each other even more than they dislike the Empire.		Each of these nations maintains armies and in the case of the Grendel, navies of their own. Though each has their own strengths and weaknesses, with the possible exception of the Iron Confederacy, they are not as powerful as the Empire. If the orc nations ever united their armies would outnumber the Empire, but such occurrences are rare, for the most part, the barbarians dislike each other even more than they dislike the Empire.

	It takes a fast sailing [[fleet]] a few weeks to make the journey to these foreign lands. In times of peace, the journey is relatively safe, but the Bay of Catazar is threatened by Grendel at present, making it a treacherous and difficult journey. In practical terms, the distances are short enough that they are significant for a [[navy\|navy]] or an [[Imperial army\|army]], but it is possible for fleets and military units of any nation to move quickly to threaten one of their neighbours.		It takes a fast sailing [[fleet]] a few weeks to make the journey to these foreign lands. In times of peace, the journey is relatively safe, but the Bay of Catazar is threatened by Grendel at present, making it a treacherous and difficult journey. In practical terms, the distances are short enough that they are significant for a [[navy\|navy]] or an [[Army\|Imperial army\|army]], but it is possible for fleets and military units of any nation to move quickly to threaten one of their neighbours.

	Each season the civil service will publish a current summary of the relationship with the nations, based on communications received from their ambassador, if any, along with any useful intelligence. If the power has made any official overtures to the Empire, be they diplomatic, military or economic offers they will be included. While the Senate and the other great houses may use their powers to respond to these offers, it is important to note that it is the [[ambassador]] who the foreign power will expect to hear from. Their letter to the foreign power is the primary element that will determine the tenor of any response		Each season the civil service will publish a current summary of the relationship with the nations, based on communications received from their ambassador, if any, along with any useful intelligence. If the power has made any official overtures to the Empire, be they diplomatic, military or economic offers they will be included. While the Senate and the other great houses may use their powers to respond to these offers, it is important to note that it is the [[ambassador]] who the foreign power will expect to hear from. Their letter to the foreign power is the primary element that will determine the tenor of any response
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	For reasons that are not entirely clear, this betrayal seems to concern the Grendel in a way that the treachery of the former Salt Lords ''Kaliact'' and ''Ehsan'' does not. Treachery is an ever-present risk in Grendel politics, and no Salt Lord ever really trusts the others. Perhaps because they expect it, they don't view it with any personal acrimony when it happens. Shivaarn's betrayal seems to be a different matter somehow, and it has the Grendel concerned enough that Morna is coming to Anvil to discuss the possibility of cooperation to defeat the self-styled High Priestess and her Children of Wrecks.		For reasons that are not entirely clear, this betrayal seems to concern the Grendel in a way that the treachery of the former Salt Lords ''Kaliact'' and ''Ehsan'' does not. Treachery is an ever-present risk in Grendel politics, and no Salt Lord ever really trusts the others. Perhaps because they expect it, they don't view it with any personal acrimony when it happens. Shivaarn's betrayal seems to be a different matter somehow, and it has the Grendel concerned enough that Morna is coming to Anvil to discuss the possibility of cooperation to defeat the self-styled High Priestess and her Children of Wrecks.

	The original suggestion presented by the Grendel was for a short period of ceasefire to allow both nations to destroy this new threat. However, recent developments have made that more difficult than originally planned. With the passage to [[Madruga#Free Landing\|Free Landing]] now impassable to [[~~Imperial army~~\|armies]], it is not clear in the short term how the Empire can defeat the Wreckers, even without the Grendel to worry about. Speaker Morna plans to discuss the whole situation with their counterpart and see what agreements can be reached. At the very least, a formal agreement to share intelligence about their common enemy, could benefit both sides.		The original suggestion presented by the Grendel was for a short period of ceasefire to allow both nations to destroy this new threat. However, recent developments have made that more difficult than originally planned. With the passage to [[Madruga#Free Landing\|Free Landing]] now impassable to [[Army\|armies]], it is not clear in the short term how the Empire can defeat the Wreckers, even without the Grendel to worry about. Speaker Morna plans to discuss the whole situation with their counterpart and see what agreements can be reached. At the very least, a formal agreement to share intelligence about their common enemy, could benefit both sides.

	==Iron Confederacy==		==Iron Confederacy==

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	Each of these nations maintains armies and in the case of the Grendel, navies of their own. Though each has their own strengths and weaknesses, with the possible exception of the Iron Confederacy, they are not as powerful as the Empire. If the orc nations ever united their armies would outnumber the Empire, but such occurrences are rare, for the most part, the barbarians dislike each other even more than they dislike the Empire.		Each of these nations maintains armies and in the case of the Grendel, navies of their own. Though each has their own strengths and weaknesses, with the possible exception of the Iron Confederacy, they are not as powerful as the Empire. If the orc nations ever united their armies would outnumber the Empire, but such occurrences are rare, for the most part, the barbarians dislike each other even more than they dislike the Empire.

	It takes a fast sailing [[fleet]] a few weeks to make the journey to these foreign lands. In times of peace, the journey is relatively safe, but the Bay of Catazar is threatened by Grendel at present, making it a treacherous and difficult journey. In practical terms, the distances are short enough that they are significant for a [[~~Imperial~~ navy\|navy]] or an [[Imperial army\|army]], but it is possible for fleets and military units of any nation to move quickly to threaten one of their neighbours.		It takes a fast sailing [[fleet]] a few weeks to make the journey to these foreign lands. In times of peace, the journey is relatively safe, but the Bay of Catazar is threatened by Grendel at present, making it a treacherous and difficult journey. In practical terms, the distances are short enough that they are significant for a [[navy\|navy]] or an [[Imperial army\|army]], but it is possible for fleets and military units of any nation to move quickly to threaten one of their neighbours.

	Each season the civil service will publish a current summary of the relationship with the nations, based on communications received from their ambassador, if any, along with any useful intelligence. If the power has made any official overtures to the Empire, be they diplomatic, military or economic offers they will be included. While the Senate and the other great houses may use their powers to respond to these offers, it is important to note that it is the [[ambassador]] who the foreign power will expect to hear from. Their letter to the foreign power is the primary element that will determine the tenor of any response		Each season the civil service will publish a current summary of the relationship with the nations, based on communications received from their ambassador, if any, along with any useful intelligence. If the power has made any official overtures to the Empire, be they diplomatic, military or economic offers they will be included. While the Senate and the other great houses may use their powers to respond to these offers, it is important to note that it is the [[ambassador]] who the foreign power will expect to hear from. Their letter to the foreign power is the primary element that will determine the tenor of any response

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	The [[Iron Confederacy]] is a powerful nation that claims to rival the Empire in size and strength. It is hard to be certain how true such claims are; apart from sporadic clashes over the years, the Empire has never come into direct conflict with its neighbour. What is clear is that the Suranni consider themselves a rival and peer of the Casinean Empire. No nation appreciates being threatened or intimidated, but the Dukes of the Iron Confederacy react especially badly to perceived slights.		The [[Iron Confederacy]] is a powerful nation that claims to rival the Empire in size and strength. It is hard to be certain how true such claims are; apart from sporadic clashes over the years, the Empire has never come into direct conflict with its neighbour. What is clear is that the Suranni consider themselves a rival and peer of the Casinean Empire. No nation appreciates being threatened or intimidated, but the Dukes of the Iron Confederacy react especially badly to perceived slights.

	Despite these challenges, the Empire has managed to maintain a civil relationship with the Suranni. This despite the fact that the Iron Confederacy loathes magicians and considers the entire [[~~Conclave\|~~Conclave]] to be filled with evil-doers in service to their demon [[Suranni_pantheon#Dumon_the_Liar,_the_Wicked_One\|Dumon]]. In fact they demand guarantees that any ambassador appointed by the Empire is not a [[Magical skills#Magician\|magician]]. Their view of the [[Synod]] is no better; they see the Empire's priests as drug-addled heretics who deny even the existence of the [[Suranni pantheon]]. They do at least, respect the [[Military Council]] and [[the Throne]], but it is a narrow bridge to build a shared understanding on.		Despite these challenges, the Empire has managed to maintain a civil relationship with the Suranni. This despite the fact that the Iron Confederacy loathes magicians and considers the entire [[Conclave]] to be filled with evil-doers in service to their demon [[Suranni_pantheon#Dumon_the_Liar,_the_Wicked_One\|Dumon]]. In fact they demand guarantees that any ambassador appointed by the Empire is not a [[Magical skills#Magician\|magician]]. Their view of the [[Synod]] is no better; they see the Empire's priests as drug-addled heretics who deny even the existence of the [[Suranni pantheon]]. They do at least, respect the [[Military Council]] and [[the Throne]], but it is a narrow bridge to build a shared understanding on.
	<div style="float:right; width: 300px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=AmbassadorIronConfederacy.png\|caption='''Tethros i Zuhri i Erigo''', Ambassador to the Iron Confederacy\|align=left\|width=300}}</div>		<div style="float:right; width: 300px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=AmbassadorIronConfederacy.png\|caption='''Tethros i Zuhri i Erigo''', Ambassador to the Iron Confederacy\|align=left\|width=300}}</div>
	Attempts to persuade the Confederacy to give up slavery have yielded only the most meagre harvest. The Dukes were eager to see the [[Tariffs#Sanctions\|sanctions]] imposed by the Empire under the terms of the [[Liberty Pact]] lifted, but the vast estates of the Dukes are worked by slaves and there was deep resistance to meaningful change. In the end they agreed to change the status of all their slaves to put them on the same level as their serfs. They freely acknowledge that the difference is minor, but serfs do enjoy some limited protections that their slaves did not. For example, serfs are protected under Suranni law from direct violence, and cannot be bought and sold as chattel. They still have no freedom of movement - they cannot leave the land they are bound to where they live and work - but the landowner does have some responsibility to ensure that they are not unnecessarily abused.		Attempts to persuade the Confederacy to give up slavery have yielded only the most meagre harvest. The Dukes were eager to see the [[Tariffs#Sanctions\|sanctions]] imposed by the Empire under the terms of the [[Liberty Pact]] lifted, but the vast estates of the Dukes are worked by slaves and there was deep resistance to meaningful change. In the end they agreed to change the status of all their slaves to put them on the same level as their serfs. They freely acknowledge that the difference is minor, but serfs do enjoy some limited protections that their slaves did not. For example, serfs are protected under Suranni law from direct violence, and cannot be bought and sold as chattel. They still have no freedom of movement - they cannot leave the land they are bound to where they live and work - but the landowner does have some responsibility to ensure that they are not unnecessarily abused.

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	The [[Iron Confederacy]] is a powerful nation that claims to rival the Empire in size and strength. It is hard to be certain how true such claims are; apart from sporadic clashes over the years, the Empire has never come into direct conflict with its neighbour. What is clear is that the Suranni consider themselves a rival and peer of the Casinean Empire. No nation appreciates being threatened or intimidated, but the Dukes of the Iron Confederacy react especially badly to perceived slights.		The [[Iron Confederacy]] is a powerful nation that claims to rival the Empire in size and strength. It is hard to be certain how true such claims are; apart from sporadic clashes over the years, the Empire has never come into direct conflict with its neighbour. What is clear is that the Suranni consider themselves a rival and peer of the Casinean Empire. No nation appreciates being threatened or intimidated, but the Dukes of the Iron Confederacy react especially badly to perceived slights.

	Despite these challenges, the Empire has managed to maintain a civil relationship with the Suranni. This despite the fact that the Iron Confederacy loathes magicians and considers the entire [[Conclave\|Conclave]] to be filled with evil-doers in service to their demon [[Suranni_pantheon#Dumon_the_Liar,_the_Wicked_One\|Dumon]]. In fact they demand guarantees that any ambassador appointed by the Empire is not a [[Magical skills#Magician\|magician]]. Their view of the [[~~Synod\|~~Synod]] is no better; they see the Empire's priests as drug-addled heretics who deny even the existence of the [[Suranni pantheon]]. They do at least, respect the [[Military Council]] and [[the Throne]], but it is a narrow bridge to build a shared understanding on.		Despite these challenges, the Empire has managed to maintain a civil relationship with the Suranni. This despite the fact that the Iron Confederacy loathes magicians and considers the entire [[Conclave\|Conclave]] to be filled with evil-doers in service to their demon [[Suranni_pantheon#Dumon_the_Liar,_the_Wicked_One\|Dumon]]. In fact they demand guarantees that any ambassador appointed by the Empire is not a [[Magical skills#Magician\|magician]]. Their view of the [[Synod]] is no better; they see the Empire's priests as drug-addled heretics who deny even the existence of the [[Suranni pantheon]]. They do at least, respect the [[Military Council]] and [[the Throne]], but it is a narrow bridge to build a shared understanding on.
	<div style="float:right; width: 300px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=AmbassadorIronConfederacy.png\|caption='''Tethros i Zuhri i Erigo''', Ambassador to the Iron Confederacy\|align=left\|width=300}}</div>		<div style="float:right; width: 300px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=AmbassadorIronConfederacy.png\|caption='''Tethros i Zuhri i Erigo''', Ambassador to the Iron Confederacy\|align=left\|width=300}}</div>
	Attempts to persuade the Confederacy to give up slavery have yielded only the most meagre harvest. The Dukes were eager to see the [[Tariffs#Sanctions\|sanctions]] imposed by the Empire under the terms of the [[Liberty Pact]] lifted, but the vast estates of the Dukes are worked by slaves and there was deep resistance to meaningful change. In the end they agreed to change the status of all their slaves to put them on the same level as their serfs. They freely acknowledge that the difference is minor, but serfs do enjoy some limited protections that their slaves did not. For example, serfs are protected under Suranni law from direct violence, and cannot be bought and sold as chattel. They still have no freedom of movement - they cannot leave the land they are bound to where they live and work - but the landowner does have some responsibility to ensure that they are not unnecessarily abused.		Attempts to persuade the Confederacy to give up slavery have yielded only the most meagre harvest. The Dukes were eager to see the [[Tariffs#Sanctions\|sanctions]] imposed by the Empire under the terms of the [[Liberty Pact]] lifted, but the vast estates of the Dukes are worked by slaves and there was deep resistance to meaningful change. In the end they agreed to change the status of all their slaves to put them on the same level as their serfs. They freely acknowledge that the difference is minor, but serfs do enjoy some limited protections that their slaves did not. For example, serfs are protected under Suranni law from direct violence, and cannot be bought and sold as chattel. They still have no freedom of movement - they cannot leave the land they are bound to where they live and work - but the landowner does have some responsibility to ensure that they are not unnecessarily abused.

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	The [[Iron Confederacy]] is a powerful nation that claims to rival the Empire in size and strength. It is hard to be certain how true such claims are; apart from sporadic clashes over the years, the Empire has never come into direct conflict with its neighbour. What is clear is that the Suranni consider themselves a rival and peer of the Casinean Empire. No nation appreciates being threatened or intimidated, but the Dukes of the Iron Confederacy react especially badly to perceived slights.		The [[Iron Confederacy]] is a powerful nation that claims to rival the Empire in size and strength. It is hard to be certain how true such claims are; apart from sporadic clashes over the years, the Empire has never come into direct conflict with its neighbour. What is clear is that the Suranni consider themselves a rival and peer of the Casinean Empire. No nation appreciates being threatened or intimidated, but the Dukes of the Iron Confederacy react especially badly to perceived slights.

	Despite these challenges, the Empire has managed to maintain a civil relationship with the Suranni. This despite the fact that the Iron Confederacy loathes magicians and considers the entire [[Conclave\|Conclave]] to be filled with evil-doers in service to their demon [[Suranni_pantheon#Dumon_the_Liar,_the_Wicked_One\|Dumon]]. In fact they demand guarantees that any ambassador appointed by the Empire is not a [[Magical skills#Magician\|magician]]. Their view of the [[~~Imperial~~ Synod\|Synod]] is no better; they see the Empire's priests as drug-addled heretics who deny even the existence of the [[Suranni pantheon]]. They do at least, respect the [[Military Council]] and [[the Throne]], but it is a narrow bridge to build a shared understanding on.		Despite these challenges, the Empire has managed to maintain a civil relationship with the Suranni. This despite the fact that the Iron Confederacy loathes magicians and considers the entire [[Conclave\|Conclave]] to be filled with evil-doers in service to their demon [[Suranni_pantheon#Dumon_the_Liar,_the_Wicked_One\|Dumon]]. In fact they demand guarantees that any ambassador appointed by the Empire is not a [[Magical skills#Magician\|magician]]. Their view of the [[Synod\|Synod]] is no better; they see the Empire's priests as drug-addled heretics who deny even the existence of the [[Suranni pantheon]]. They do at least, respect the [[Military Council]] and [[the Throne]], but it is a narrow bridge to build a shared understanding on.
	<div style="float:right; width: 300px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=AmbassadorIronConfederacy.png\|caption='''Tethros i Zuhri i Erigo''', Ambassador to the Iron Confederacy\|align=left\|width=300}}</div>		<div style="float:right; width: 300px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=AmbassadorIronConfederacy.png\|caption='''Tethros i Zuhri i Erigo''', Ambassador to the Iron Confederacy\|align=left\|width=300}}</div>
	Attempts to persuade the Confederacy to give up slavery have yielded only the most meagre harvest. The Dukes were eager to see the [[Tariffs#Sanctions\|sanctions]] imposed by the Empire under the terms of the [[Liberty Pact]] lifted, but the vast estates of the Dukes are worked by slaves and there was deep resistance to meaningful change. In the end they agreed to change the status of all their slaves to put them on the same level as their serfs. They freely acknowledge that the difference is minor, but serfs do enjoy some limited protections that their slaves did not. For example, serfs are protected under Suranni law from direct violence, and cannot be bought and sold as chattel. They still have no freedom of movement - they cannot leave the land they are bound to where they live and work - but the landowner does have some responsibility to ensure that they are not unnecessarily abused.		Attempts to persuade the Confederacy to give up slavery have yielded only the most meagre harvest. The Dukes were eager to see the [[Tariffs#Sanctions\|sanctions]] imposed by the Empire under the terms of the [[Liberty Pact]] lifted, but the vast estates of the Dukes are worked by slaves and there was deep resistance to meaningful change. In the end they agreed to change the status of all their slaves to put them on the same level as their serfs. They freely acknowledge that the difference is minor, but serfs do enjoy some limited protections that their slaves did not. For example, serfs are protected under Suranni law from direct violence, and cannot be bought and sold as chattel. They still have no freedom of movement - they cannot leave the land they are bound to where they live and work - but the landowner does have some responsibility to ensure that they are not unnecessarily abused.

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	The [[Iron Confederacy]] is a powerful nation that claims to rival the Empire in size and strength. It is hard to be certain how true such claims are; apart from sporadic clashes over the years, the Empire has never come into direct conflict with its neighbour. What is clear is that the Suranni consider themselves a rival and peer of the Casinean Empire. No nation appreciates being threatened or intimidated, but the Dukes of the Iron Confederacy react especially badly to perceived slights.		The [[Iron Confederacy]] is a powerful nation that claims to rival the Empire in size and strength. It is hard to be certain how true such claims are; apart from sporadic clashes over the years, the Empire has never come into direct conflict with its neighbour. What is clear is that the Suranni consider themselves a rival and peer of the Casinean Empire. No nation appreciates being threatened or intimidated, but the Dukes of the Iron Confederacy react especially badly to perceived slights.

	Despite these challenges, the Empire has managed to maintain a civil relationship with the Suranni. This despite the fact that the Iron Confederacy loathes magicians and considers the entire [[~~Imperial~~ Conclave\|Conclave]] to be filled with evil-doers in service to their demon [[Suranni_pantheon#Dumon_the_Liar,_the_Wicked_One\|Dumon]]. In fact they demand guarantees that any ambassador appointed by the Empire is not a [[Magical skills#Magician\|magician]]. Their view of the [[Imperial Synod\|Synod]] is no better; they see the Empire's priests as drug-addled heretics who deny even the existence of the [[Suranni pantheon]]. They do at least, respect the [[Military Council]] and [[the Throne]], but it is a narrow bridge to build a shared understanding on.		Despite these challenges, the Empire has managed to maintain a civil relationship with the Suranni. This despite the fact that the Iron Confederacy loathes magicians and considers the entire [[Conclave\|Conclave]] to be filled with evil-doers in service to their demon [[Suranni_pantheon#Dumon_the_Liar,_the_Wicked_One\|Dumon]]. In fact they demand guarantees that any ambassador appointed by the Empire is not a [[Magical skills#Magician\|magician]]. Their view of the [[Imperial Synod\|Synod]] is no better; they see the Empire's priests as drug-addled heretics who deny even the existence of the [[Suranni pantheon]]. They do at least, respect the [[Military Council]] and [[the Throne]], but it is a narrow bridge to build a shared understanding on.
	<div style="float:right; width: 300px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=AmbassadorIronConfederacy.png\|caption='''Tethros i Zuhri i Erigo''', Ambassador to the Iron Confederacy\|align=left\|width=300}}</div>		<div style="float:right; width: 300px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=AmbassadorIronConfederacy.png\|caption='''Tethros i Zuhri i Erigo''', Ambassador to the Iron Confederacy\|align=left\|width=300}}</div>
	Attempts to persuade the Confederacy to give up slavery have yielded only the most meagre harvest. The Dukes were eager to see the [[Tariffs#Sanctions\|sanctions]] imposed by the Empire under the terms of the [[Liberty Pact]] lifted, but the vast estates of the Dukes are worked by slaves and there was deep resistance to meaningful change. In the end they agreed to change the status of all their slaves to put them on the same level as their serfs. They freely acknowledge that the difference is minor, but serfs do enjoy some limited protections that their slaves did not. For example, serfs are protected under Suranni law from direct violence, and cannot be bought and sold as chattel. They still have no freedom of movement - they cannot leave the land they are bound to where they live and work - but the landowner does have some responsibility to ensure that they are not unnecessarily abused.		Attempts to persuade the Confederacy to give up slavery have yielded only the most meagre harvest. The Dukes were eager to see the [[Tariffs#Sanctions\|sanctions]] imposed by the Empire under the terms of the [[Liberty Pact]] lifted, but the vast estates of the Dukes are worked by slaves and there was deep resistance to meaningful change. In the end they agreed to change the status of all their slaves to put them on the same level as their serfs. They freely acknowledge that the difference is minor, but serfs do enjoy some limited protections that their slaves did not. For example, serfs are protected under Suranni law from direct violence, and cannot be bought and sold as chattel. They still have no freedom of movement - they cannot leave the land they are bound to where they live and work - but the landowner does have some responsibility to ensure that they are not unnecessarily abused.

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	* '''They are officially neutral in the war between the Empire and the Grendel, but have hinted that they might back the Grendel unless the Empire offers them an inducement not to do so'''		* '''They are officially neutral in the war between the Empire and the Grendel, but have hinted that they might back the Grendel unless the Empire offers them an inducement not to do so'''
	* '''The Suranni seem to be quite impressed by the stance Empress Vesna has taken so far'''		* '''The Suranni seem to be quite impressed by the stance Empress Vesna has taken so far'''
	At present, the Iron Confederacy remains officially neutral in the conflict between the Grendel and the Empire. At one point there was a proposal to consider a military alliance that would have seen Suranni and Imperial soldiers cooperate in driving the orcs out of [[Feroz]], but it fell apart when it became eminently clear that the ~~Surrani~~ would expect to keep any regions they liberated from the Grendel. Since then, they have been frank about the fact that they are trading with the Grendel and were blunt in rebuffing any suggestion that Imperial vessels might hunt Grendel ships in ~~Surrani~~ waters. Any Imperial fleets hunting the Grendel must confine themselves to their own waters if they wish to avoid problems.		At present, the Iron Confederacy remains officially neutral in the conflict between the Grendel and the Empire. At one point there was a proposal to consider a military alliance that would have seen Suranni and Imperial soldiers cooperate in driving the orcs out of [[Feroz]], but it fell apart when it became eminently clear that the Suranni would expect to keep any regions they liberated from the Grendel. Since then, they have been frank about the fact that they are trading with the Grendel and were blunt in rebuffing any suggestion that Imperial vessels might hunt Grendel ships in Suranni waters. Any Imperial fleets hunting the Grendel must confine themselves to their own waters if they wish to avoid problems.

	However, the Empire are not the only power that seeks an alliance with the Confederacy. Baroness Lavasse, admits they have little interest siding with the blasphemous [[Asavean Archipelago\|Asaveans]] and the Dumon-addled [[Principalities of Jarm\|Jarmish]], or with their Grendel pawns. However, pragmatism must reign in the world of international politics. The ''Freedom Accord'' have offered substantial inducements, the nature of which she will not be drawn on, for the Iron Confederacy to offer material aid to the Grendel and their Asavean allies. Committing troops to such a conflict is not on the table, but supplies and materiel certainly could be, all of which could be of great use to the Empire's enemies in a war of attrition. Yet even as pragmatism dictates that consideration must be given to the Freedom Alliance's offer, it also dictates that the Empire must be given a chance to make a good counter-offer.		However, the Empire are not the only power that seeks an alliance with the Confederacy. Baroness Lavasse, admits they have little interest siding with the blasphemous [[Asavean Archipelago\|Asaveans]] and the Dumon-addled [[Principalities of Jarm\|Jarmish]], or with their Grendel pawns. However, pragmatism must reign in the world of international politics. The ''Freedom Accord'' have offered substantial inducements, the nature of which she will not be drawn on, for the Iron Confederacy to offer material aid to the Grendel and their Asavean allies. Committing troops to such a conflict is not on the table, but supplies and materiel certainly could be, all of which could be of great use to the Empire's enemies in a war of attrition. Yet even as pragmatism dictates that consideration must be given to the Freedom Alliance's offer, it also dictates that the Empire must be given a chance to make a good counter-offer.
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	The Consolidation respects and acknowledges the ambitions of the Empire to defeat the orcs of the Broken Shore and Attar, and formally states that they regard the Empire as a more suitable and responsible steward of these lands. The Consolidation will not attempt to interfere in the politics or military affairs of the orcs of the Broken Shore or Attar, both neutral parties and those that align themselves with the Grendel nation, without consultation with the Empire. Both parties state an intention for future successful negotiations regarding the deployment of Skouran mercenaries in this theatre of war.		The Consolidation respects and acknowledges the ambitions of the Empire to defeat the orcs of the Broken Shore and Attar, and formally states that they regard the Empire as a more suitable and responsible steward of these lands. The Consolidation will not attempt to interfere in the politics or military affairs of the orcs of the Broken Shore or Attar, both neutral parties and those that align themselves with the Grendel nation, without consultation with the Empire. Both parties state an intention for future successful negotiations regarding the deployment of Skouran mercenaries in this theatre of war.

	The Empire acknowledges the history of the Skouran people in Mareave-that-was-once-Mahal, and will attempt to return, at reasonable costs, any cultural and historical ~~artifacts~~ of the Skouran people that are uncovered as they develop the territory.		The Empire acknowledges the history of the Skouran people in Mareave-that-was-once-Mahal, and will attempt to return, at reasonable costs, any cultural and historical artefacts of the Skouran people that are uncovered as they develop the territory.
	The Empire acknowledges the profound wish of the Skouran people to live in security and to enjoy the fruits of the labour of their hands in peace. They reject territorial claim to the lands in which the Skouran people now dwell, known to some as "the Deepholdings" or "the Spine of the Creator".		The Empire acknowledges the profound wish of the Skouran people to live in security and to enjoy the fruits of the labour of their hands in peace. They reject territorial claim to the lands in which the Skouran people now dwell, known to some as "the Deepholdings" or "the Spine of the Creator".
	The Empire respects the friendship of the Skouran people with the people of the Mountain of the Moon who call themselves Tsark, and acknowledges the risks to the Consolidation that destabilisation of this society could bring. Therefore, the Empire commits themselves to consulting with the Consolidation on substantive matters pertaining to Tsark.		The Empire respects the friendship of the Skouran people with the people of the Mountain of the Moon who call themselves Tsark, and acknowledges the risks to the Consolidation that destabilisation of this society could bring. Therefore, the Empire commits themselves to consulting with the Consolidation on substantive matters pertaining to Tsark.

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	There appear to be no non-Lasambrian Jotun among these orcs; it seems that they have come on behalf of their own septs. Regardless of who they are here to see, as representatives of a nation to which the Empire does not have a formal ambassador, diplomatic relations with the Lasambrian Jotun fall under the purview of the [[Imperial Consul]].		There appear to be no non-Lasambrian Jotun among these orcs; it seems that they have come on behalf of their own septs. Regardless of who they are here to see, as representatives of a nation to which the Empire does not have a formal ambassador, diplomatic relations with the Lasambrian Jotun fall under the purview of the [[Imperial Consul]].
	<quote by="Callus Strategos, Dean of the Lyceum during the reign of Empress ~~Brennan~~>The price of peace is constant bloody talking.</quote>		<quote by="Callus Strategos, Dean of the Lyceum during the reign of Empress Brannan>The price of peace is constant bloody talking.</quote>

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	At present, the Iron Confederacy remains officially neutral in the conflict between the Grendel and the Empire. At one point there was a proposal to consider a military alliance that would have seen Suranni and Imperial soldiers cooperate in driving the orcs out of [[Feroz]], but it fell apart when it became eminently clear that the Surrani would expect to keep any regions they liberated from the Grendel. Since then, they have been frank about the fact that they are trading with the Grendel and were blunt in rebuffing any suggestion that Imperial vessels might hunt Grendel ships in Surrani waters. Any Imperial fleets hunting the Grendel must confine themselves to their own waters if they wish to avoid problems.		At present, the Iron Confederacy remains officially neutral in the conflict between the Grendel and the Empire. At one point there was a proposal to consider a military alliance that would have seen Suranni and Imperial soldiers cooperate in driving the orcs out of [[Feroz]], but it fell apart when it became eminently clear that the Surrani would expect to keep any regions they liberated from the Grendel. Since then, they have been frank about the fact that they are trading with the Grendel and were blunt in rebuffing any suggestion that Imperial vessels might hunt Grendel ships in Surrani waters. Any Imperial fleets hunting the Grendel must confine themselves to their own waters if they wish to avoid problems.

	However, the Empire are not the only power that seeks an alliance with the Confederacy. Baroness Lavasse, admits they have little interest siding with the ~~decadent~~ [[Asavean Archipelago\|Asaveans]] and the Dumon-addled [[Principalities of Jarm\|Jarmish]], or with their Grendel pawns. However, pragmatism must reign in the world of international politics. The ''Freedom Accord'' have offered substantial inducements, the nature of which she will not be drawn on, for the Iron Confederacy to offer material aid to the Grendel and their Asavean allies. Committing troops to such a conflict is not on the table, but supplies and materiel certainly could be, all of which could be of great use to the Empire's enemies in a war of attrition. Yet even as pragmatism dictates that consideration must be given to the Freedom Alliance's offer, it also dictates that the Empire must be given a chance to make a good counter-offer.		However, the Empire are not the only power that seeks an alliance with the Confederacy. Baroness Lavasse, admits they have little interest siding with the blasphemous [[Asavean Archipelago\|Asaveans]] and the Dumon-addled [[Principalities of Jarm\|Jarmish]], or with their Grendel pawns. However, pragmatism must reign in the world of international politics. The ''Freedom Accord'' have offered substantial inducements, the nature of which she will not be drawn on, for the Iron Confederacy to offer material aid to the Grendel and their Asavean allies. Committing troops to such a conflict is not on the table, but supplies and materiel certainly could be, all of which could be of great use to the Empire's enemies in a war of attrition. Yet even as pragmatism dictates that consideration must be given to the Freedom Alliance's offer, it also dictates that the Empire must be given a chance to make a good counter-offer.

	The Baroness is keen to offer reassurances that a formal treaty is not necessary. While it may help from a legal standpoint to condense all potential inducements into one concise document, negotiations can be time-consuming and there is only so long that the Freedom Accord can be stalled before they demand a firm answer one way or the other. As such, if the Empire wishes the Iron Confederacy to retain their neutral stance, swift action on the Empire's part is ideal. She suggests that there are obvious advantages to the Empire here, even if all they manage is to persuade the Suranni to remain neutral; the more the Empire seems to be positively disposed to the Suranni people, the more the Baroness will be able to persuade the Ducal Houses to continue to focus on internal political matters.		The Baroness is keen to offer reassurances that a formal treaty is not necessary. While it may help from a legal standpoint to condense all potential inducements into one concise document, negotiations can be time-consuming and there is only so long that the Freedom Accord can be stalled before they demand a firm answer one way or the other. As such, if the Empire wishes the Iron Confederacy to retain their neutral stance, swift action on the Empire's part is ideal. She suggests that there are obvious advantages to the Empire here, even if all they manage is to persuade the Suranni to remain neutral; the more the Empire seems to be positively disposed to the Suranni people, the more the Baroness will be able to persuade the Ducal Houses to continue to focus on internal political matters.

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	<ic>She stared at the younger orc, her face a mix of confusion and disgust. "There must be some mistake." she said, fighting to keep her voice respectful. "We've spent years watching the borders... now we're supposed to just let them in?"		<ic>She stared at the younger orc, her face a mix of confusion and disgust. "There must be some mistake." she said, fighting to keep her voice respectful. "We've spent years watching the borders... now we're supposed to just let them in?"