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Twiggy at 15:53, 16 March 2026

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	The Sumaah follow the Way, but their [[Sumaah_Republic#Religion\|religious practices]] differ slightly in a few areas. They have eight assemblies as the Imperial Synod does, but their House of the Way is without doubt the most powerful. While the Sumaah have a General Assembly, it has few actual powers - and the powers that in the Empire would be wielded by the General Assembly are generally wielded by the Assembly of the Way.		The Sumaah follow the Way, but their [[Sumaah_Republic#Religion\|religious practices]] differ slightly in a few areas. They have eight assemblies as the Imperial Synod does, but their House of the Way is without doubt the most powerful. While the Sumaah have a General Assembly, it has few actual powers - and the powers that in the Empire would be wielded by the General Assembly are generally wielded by the Assembly of the Way.

	Tipoa the Insightful is expected to arrive in Necropolis (the site of the largely closed-down Sumaah Embassy) shortly before the Summer Solstice, along with a small staff. As with any Inquisition, it falls to the priests who will ~~perfom~~ it to arrange with the subjects a suitable time and place to do so. Tipoa has reportedly dispatched messages to the Imperial [[Ambassador to the Sumaah Republic]], and to certain respected citizens in [[Highguard]], requesting their aid in arranging the ~~Inqusition~~ of the two Imperial Orcs.		Tipoa the Insightful is expected to arrive in Necropolis (the site of the largely closed-down Sumaah Embassy) shortly before the Summer Solstice, along with a small staff. As with any Inquisition, it falls to the priests who will perform it to arrange with the subjects a suitable time and place to do so. Tipoa has reportedly dispatched messages to the Imperial [[Ambassador to the Sumaah Republic]], and to certain respected citizens in [[Highguard]], requesting their aid in arranging the Inquisition of the two Imperial Orcs.

	They have demanded that only Imperial Orcs will be admitted to the Inquisition - although if the Bonewall orcs wish to bring others of their kind to answer questions they are invited to do so. The Sumaah seem concerned that if humans are present they will be able to coach the Orcs to give apparently virtuous answers, invalidating the ~~inqusition~~. While it is phrased as a demand, it is likely their Pride that makes them speak in such uncompromising tones. As they are in no position to enforce their demand as there is no legal support for this Inquisition, it really amounts to nothing more than a request, albeit delivered in the last diplomatic way possible.		They have demanded that only Imperial Orcs will be admitted to the Inquisition - although if the Bonewall orcs wish to bring others of their kind to answer questions they are invited to do so. The Sumaah seem concerned that if humans are present they will be able to coach the Orcs to give apparently virtuous answers, invalidating the inquisition. While it is phrased as a demand, it is likely their Pride that makes them speak in such uncompromising tones. As they are in no position to enforce their demand as there is no legal support for this Inquisition, it really amounts to nothing more than a request, albeit delivered in the last diplomatic way possible.

	On the surface, this appears to some to be an insult ... but there is clearly more going on here than first meets the eye.		On the surface, this appears to some to be an insult ... but there is clearly more going on here than first meets the eye.

RichardRaynor at 21:31, 31 January 2022

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	[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:381YE]][[Category:Recent History]]		[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:381YE Spring]][[Category:Recent History]]
	<ic>Kejek and Eft sat on porch, watching Yantl chopping wood in the early evening gloom.		<ic>Kejek and Eft sat on porch, watching Yantl chopping wood in the early evening gloom.

Rafferty at 12:38, 9 September 2019

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	"Ribs!" said Yantl enthusiastically as he approached. "I like that idea. Someone cook me ribs - I've been working up an appetite while you two've been sat on your arses gabbling."		"Ribs!" said Yantl enthusiastically as he approached. "I like that idea. Someone cook me ribs - I've been working up an appetite while you two've been sat on your arses gabbling."

	He pushed past them. Kejek followed him inside, bantering good-naturedly. Eft remained on the porch watching the stars came out. He pulled out a handful of his necklaces, quickly ~~sortin gthem~~ until he found the wooden labyrinth Yantl had carved. He traced the design with one finger, but he could not settle. Finally, with a sigh, he stood up and followed the others inside, hoping that tomorrow someone would be able to help him make sense of his confusion.</ic>		He pushed past them. Kejek followed him inside, bantering good-naturedly. Eft remained on the porch watching as the stars came out. He pulled out a handful of his necklaces, quickly sorting them until he found the wooden labyrinth Yantl had carved. He traced the design with one finger, but he could not settle. Finally, with a sigh, he stood up and followed the others inside, hoping that tomorrow someone would be able to help him make sense of his confusion.</ic>
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	During the Winter Solstice, the [[Symposium of Revelation]] saw two very significant [[Change of doctrine\|changes of doctrine]] that help to place the [[Imperial_Orcs_religious_beliefs\|spiritual beliefs]] of the [[Imperial Orcs]] in context with [[the Way]]. The two doctrines, proposed by the [[preachers]] Bonewall Rek and Bonewall Cole.		During the Winter Solstice, the [[Symposium of Revelation]] saw two very significant [[Change of doctrine\|changes of doctrine]] that help to place the [[Imperial_Orcs_religious_beliefs\|spiritual beliefs]] of the [[Imperial Orcs]] in context with [[the Way]]. The two doctrines, proposed by the [[preachers]] Bonewall Rek and Bonewall Cole.

Rafferty at 15:34, 1 November 2018

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	[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:381YE]][[Category:Recent History~~]][[Category: Spring Equinox 381YE~~]]		[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:381YE]][[Category:Recent History]]
	<ic>Kejek and Eft sat on porch, watching Yantl chopping wood in the early evening gloom.		<ic>Kejek and Eft sat on porch, watching Yantl chopping wood in the early evening gloom.

IllithidbixTom: Bonewall Cole is Bonewall Cole.

2017-06-11T20:47:57Z

Bonewall Cole is Bonewall Cole.

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	He pushed past them. Kejek followed him inside, bantering good-naturedly. Eft remained on the porch watching the stars came out. He pulled out a handful of his necklaces, quickly sortin gthem until he found the wooden labyrinth Yantl had carved. He traced the design with one finger, but he could not settle. Finally, with a sigh, he stood up and followed the others inside, hoping that tomorrow someone would be able to help him make sense of his confusion.</ic>		He pushed past them. Kejek followed him inside, bantering good-naturedly. Eft remained on the porch watching the stars came out. He pulled out a handful of his necklaces, quickly sortin gthem until he found the wooden labyrinth Yantl had carved. He traced the design with one finger, but he could not settle. Finally, with a sigh, he stood up and followed the others inside, hoping that tomorrow someone would be able to help him make sense of his confusion.</ic>
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	During the Winter Solstice, the [[Symposium of Revelation]] saw two very significant [[Change of doctrine\|changes of doctrine]] that help to place the [[Imperial_Orcs_religious_beliefs\|spiritual beliefs]] of the [[Imperial Orcs]] in context with [[the Way]]. The two doctrines, proposed by the [[preachers]] Bonewall Rek and Bonewall.		During the Winter Solstice, the [[Symposium of Revelation]] saw two very significant [[Change of doctrine\|changes of doctrine]] that help to place the [[Imperial_Orcs_religious_beliefs\|spiritual beliefs]] of the [[Imperial Orcs]] in context with [[the Way]]. The two doctrines, proposed by the [[preachers]] Bonewall Rek and Bonewall Cole.

	The [[The_Doctrines_of_the_Faith#The_Doctrine_of_the_Howling_Abyss\|Doctrine of the Howling Abyss]] says that: ''Orcs live only one life. After death, the orcish soul either is lost to the Howling Abyss or crosses it to become an Ancestor who can guide and advise living orcs.'' This incorporates the orc belief in the [[Imperial_Orcs_religious_beliefs#The_Howling_Abyss\|Howling Abyss]] into the doctrine of the Way, and clarifies that orcs do not reincarnate in the way that humans do. It seems to be a clear recognition by the Synod that the souls of humans and those of orcs are fundamentally different.		The [[The_Doctrines_of_the_Faith#The_Doctrine_of_the_Howling_Abyss\|Doctrine of the Howling Abyss]] says that: ''Orcs live only one life. After death, the orcish soul either is lost to the Howling Abyss or crosses it to become an Ancestor who can guide and advise living orcs.'' This incorporates the orc belief in the [[Imperial_Orcs_religious_beliefs#The_Howling_Abyss\|Howling Abyss]] into the doctrine of the Way, and clarifies that orcs do not reincarnate in the way that humans do. It seems to be a clear recognition by the Synod that the souls of humans and those of orcs are fundamentally different.

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The Sumaah Inquisition

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	The Sumaah follow the Way, but their [[Sumaah_Republic#Religion\|religious practices]] differ slightly in a few areas. They have eight assemblies as the Imperial Synod does, but their House of the Way is without doubt the most powerful. While the Sumaah have a General Assembly, it has few actual powers - and the powers that in the Empire would be wielded by the General Assembly are generally wielded by the Assembly of the Way.		The Sumaah follow the Way, but their [[Sumaah_Republic#Religion\|religious practices]] differ slightly in a few areas. They have eight assemblies as the Imperial Synod does, but their House of the Way is without doubt the most powerful. While the Sumaah have a General Assembly, it has few actual powers - and the powers that in the Empire would be wielded by the General Assembly are generally wielded by the Assembly of the Way.

	Tipoa the Insightful is expected to arrive in Necropolis (the site of the largely closed-down Sumaah Embassy) shortly before the Summer Solstice, along with a small staff. As with any Inquisition, it falls to the priests who will perfom it to arrange with the subjects a suitable time and place to do so. Tipoa has reportedly dispatched messages to the Imperial [[Ambassador to Sumaah]], and to certain respected citizens in [[Highguard]], requesting their aid in arranging the Inqusition of the two Imperial Orcs.		Tipoa the Insightful is expected to arrive in Necropolis (the site of the largely closed-down Sumaah Embassy) shortly before the Summer Solstice, along with a small staff. As with any Inquisition, it falls to the priests who will perfom it to arrange with the subjects a suitable time and place to do so. Tipoa has reportedly dispatched messages to the Imperial [[Ambassador to the Sumaah Republic]], and to certain respected citizens in [[Highguard]], requesting their aid in arranging the Inqusition of the two Imperial Orcs.

	They have demanded that only Imperial Orcs will be admitted to the Inquisition - although if the Bonewall orcs wish to bring others of their kind to answer questions they are invited to do so. The Sumaah seem concerned that if humans are present they will be able to coach the Orcs to give apparently virtuous answers, invalidating the inqusition. While it is phrased as a demand, it is likely their Pride that makes them speak in such uncompromising tones. As they are in no position to enforce their demand as there is no legal support for this Inquisition, it really amounts to nothing more than a request, albeit delivered in the last diplomatic way possible.		They have demanded that only Imperial Orcs will be admitted to the Inquisition - although if the Bonewall orcs wish to bring others of their kind to answer questions they are invited to do so. The Sumaah seem concerned that if humans are present they will be able to coach the Orcs to give apparently virtuous answers, invalidating the inqusition. While it is phrased as a demand, it is likely their Pride that makes them speak in such uncompromising tones. As they are in no position to enforce their demand as there is no legal support for this Inquisition, it really amounts to nothing more than a request, albeit delivered in the last diplomatic way possible.

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A home for the faithful (Opportunity)

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	The Imperial Senate may choose to answer this call and [[commission]] a spiritual centre for the orcs to study the Way - similar to the role played by [[Necropolis#The_Necropolis\|the Necropolis]], the marshes of [[Kallavesa]] or even the [[Bastion#Bastion.2C_the_White_City\|White City]] itself. Doing so would require 15 wains of white granite and 5 wains of weirwood, 5 Thrones in labour costs, and take 3 months to complete converting the House into a seminary. When it is complete, the House would cease to function as a [[congregation]], and would instead become a [[great work]] that provides a share of 25 votes in the Imperial Synod and 12 liao to every Imperial Orcs congregation in Skarsind.		The Imperial Senate may choose to answer this call and [[commission]] a spiritual centre for the orcs to study the Way - similar to the role played by [[Necropolis#The_Necropolis\|the Necropolis]], the marshes of [[Kallavesa]] or even the [[Bastion#Bastion.2C_the_White_City\|White City]] itself. Doing so would require 15 wains of white granite and 5 wains of weirwood, 5 Thrones in labour costs, and take 3 months to complete converting the House into a seminary. When it is complete, the House would cease to function as a [[congregation]], and would instead become a [[great work]] that provides a share of 25 votes in the Imperial Synod and 12 liao to every Imperial Orcs congregation in Skarsind.

	Cardinal Atla, the current custodian of the House of White Ravens, would need to grant permission for the commission to go ahead; at the end of the day it is still legally ~~her~~ [[personal resource]].		Cardinal Atla, the current custodian of the House of White Ravens, would need to grant permission for the commission to go ahead; at the end of the day it is still legally their [[Resource#Personal_Resource\|personal resource]].

	====Changing the world====		====Changing the world====

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	As the implications of the changes to doctrine have worked their way through the Imperial Orcs, several well respected preachers have called for a permanent focus to celebrate their newly defined status. They point to the [[Skarsind_spoils_of_war#The_Hall_of_White_Ravens\|Hall of White Ravens]] - the [[congregation]] of '''[[Cardinal]] Atla''' - as the obvious candidate to serve as such a focus. The intention is that the house be redesigned and expanded to serve as a school both to increase the understanding of the Way among the Imperial Orcs, and as a place where new preachers can be trained.		As the implications of the changes to doctrine have worked their way through the Imperial Orcs, several well respected preachers have called for a permanent focus to celebrate their newly defined status. They point to the [[Skarsind_spoils_of_war#The_Hall_of_White_Ravens\|Hall of White Ravens]] - the [[congregation]] of '''[[Cardinal]] Atla''' - as the obvious candidate to serve as such a focus. The intention is that the house be redesigned and expanded to serve as a school both to increase the understanding of the Way among the Imperial Orcs, and as a place where new preachers can be trained.

	The Imperial Senate may choose to answer this call and [[commission]] a spiritual centre for the orcs to study the Way - similar to the role played by [[the Necropolis]], the marshes of [[Kallavesa]] or even [[~~the~~ White City]] ~~in [[Bastion]]~~. Doing so would require 15 wains of white granite and 5 wains of weirwood, 5 Thrones in labour costs, and take 3 months to complete converting the House into a seminary. When it is complete, the House would cease to function as a [[congregation]], and would instead become a [[great work]] that provides a share of 25 votes in the Imperial Synod and 12 liao to every Imperial Orcs congregation in Skarsind.		The Imperial Senate may choose to answer this call and [[commission]] a spiritual centre for the orcs to study the Way - similar to the role played by [[Necropolis#The_Necropolis\|the Necropolis]], the marshes of [[Kallavesa]] or even the [[Bastion#Bastion.2C_the_White_City\|White City]] itself. Doing so would require 15 wains of white granite and 5 wains of weirwood, 5 Thrones in labour costs, and take 3 months to complete converting the House into a seminary. When it is complete, the House would cease to function as a [[congregation]], and would instead become a [[great work]] that provides a share of 25 votes in the Imperial Synod and 12 liao to every Imperial Orcs congregation in Skarsind.

	Cardinal Atla, the current custodian of the House of White Ravens, would need to grant permission for the commission to go ahead; at the end of the day it is still legally her [[personal resource]].		Cardinal Atla, the current custodian of the House of White Ravens, would need to grant permission for the commission to go ahead; at the end of the day it is still legally her [[personal resource]].

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	===Opportunities===		===Opportunities===
	====A home for the faithful (Opportunity)====		====A home for the faithful (Opportunity)====
	As the implications of the changes to doctrine have worked their way through the Imperial Orcs, several well respected preachers have called for a permanent focus to celebrate their newly defined status. They point to [[~~the House~~ of White Ravens]] - the [[congregation]] of Cardinal Atla - as the obvious candidate to serve as such a focus. The intention is that the house be redesigned and expanded to serve as a school both to increase the understanding of the Way among the Imperial Orcs, and as a place where new preachers can be trained.		As the implications of the changes to doctrine have worked their way through the Imperial Orcs, several well respected preachers have called for a permanent focus to celebrate their newly defined status. They point to the [[Skarsind_spoils_of_war#The_Hall_of_White_Ravens\|Hall of White Ravens]] - the [[congregation]] of '''[[Cardinal]] Atla''' - as the obvious candidate to serve as such a focus. The intention is that the house be redesigned and expanded to serve as a school both to increase the understanding of the Way among the Imperial Orcs, and as a place where new preachers can be trained.

	The Imperial Senate may choose to answer this call and [[commission]] a spiritual centre for the orcs to study the Way - similar to the role played by [[the Necropolis]], the marshes of [[Kallavesa]] or even [[the White City]] in [[Bastion]]. Doing so would require 15 wains of white granite and 5 wains of weirwood, 5 Thrones in labour costs, and take 3 months to complete converting the House into a seminary. When it is complete, the House would cease to function as a [[congregation]], and would instead become a [[great work]] that provides a share of 25 votes in the Imperial Synod and 12 liao to every Imperial Orcs congregation in Skarsind.		The Imperial Senate may choose to answer this call and [[commission]] a spiritual centre for the orcs to study the Way - similar to the role played by [[the Necropolis]], the marshes of [[Kallavesa]] or even [[the White City]] in [[Bastion]]. Doing so would require 15 wains of white granite and 5 wains of weirwood, 5 Thrones in labour costs, and take 3 months to complete converting the House into a seminary. When it is complete, the House would cease to function as a [[congregation]], and would instead become a [[great work]] that provides a share of 25 votes in the Imperial Synod and 12 liao to every Imperial Orcs congregation in Skarsind.

Rafferty: /* The Sumaah Inquisition */

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The Sumaah Inquisition

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	This change is likely to be most relevant in places where orcs are treated as less than humans - specifically in Jarm, and to a much lesser degree the Sarcophan Delves. Indeed, if the faithful in Jarm adopt these doctrines, they will start agitating for the emancipation of orc slaves, as well as human slaves. Given the political situation there this will be controversial and will damage relations with the Jarmish - but it is another step toward dismantling the unjust practice of slavery.		This change is likely to be most relevant in places where orcs are treated as less than humans - specifically in Jarm, and to a much lesser degree the Sarcophan Delves. Indeed, if the faithful in Jarm adopt these doctrines, they will start agitating for the emancipation of orc slaves, as well as human slaves. Given the political situation there this will be controversial and will damage relations with the Jarmish - but it is another step toward dismantling the unjust practice of slavery.

	==The Sumaah Inquisition==		===The Sumaah Inquisition===
	The Präster of the Sumaah Republic have been appraised of the changes of doctrine. While the Sumaah are at war with the Empire, the Empire has still not [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Declaration_of_War\|declared war]] on the Sumaah so they are still considered foreigners, rather than barbarians. Their House of the Way has issued a short statement in response.		The Präster of the Sumaah Republic have been appraised of the changes of doctrine. While the Sumaah are at war with the Empire, the Empire has still not [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Declaration_of_War\|declared war]] on the Sumaah so they are still considered foreigners, rather than barbarians. Their House of the Way has issued a short statement in response.