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Twiggy at 02:06, 22 January 2026

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	After a great deal of discussion, the solution appears to be to provide the Ethengraw sept with smithies and armouries that they will own. They'll use them to make their own weapons and armour, and once they have accoutred themselves as warriors, then they'll speak to the egregore and find a place among the Imperial Orcs. Construction on the scale that will be necessary will require an [[edifice]] costing 60 wains of mithril, 120 crowns, and six months to complete. It will require a [[Senate motion]], would need to be ceded to the Ethengraw and would count toward the limited number of [[commission\|commissions]].		After a great deal of discussion, the solution appears to be to provide the Ethengraw sept with smithies and armouries that they will own. They'll use them to make their own weapons and armour, and once they have accoutred themselves as warriors, then they'll speak to the egregore and find a place among the Imperial Orcs. Construction on the scale that will be necessary will require an [[edifice]] costing 60 wains of mithril, 120 crowns, and six months to complete. It will require a [[Senate motion]], would need to be ceded to the Ethengraw and would count toward the limited number of [[commission\|commissions]].
	===Memory of War===		===Memory of War===
	If the armoury-smithies are built, the Ethengraw will join the Imperial Orcs. They will bring with them their unquenchable fighting spirit, and the techniques they have honed over the centuries. They would form a powerful core for any new Imperial Orc [[~~Imperial_army\|~~army]]. Their inclusion would provide opportunities to muster a new army and an opportunity for a unique quality that reflects the Ethengraw fighting arts.		If the armoury-smithies are built, the Ethengraw will join the Imperial Orcs. They will bring with them their unquenchable fighting spirit, and the techniques they have honed over the centuries. They would form a powerful core for any new Imperial Orc [[army]]. Their inclusion would provide opportunities to muster a new army and an opportunity for a unique quality that reflects the Ethengraw fighting arts.

	==The Illarawm==		==The Illarawm==

Twiggy at 13:37, 29 September 2025

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	* '''The palace is an edifice requiring 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''		* '''The palace is an edifice requiring 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''
	* '''If the Yerende sept joins the Imperial Orcs, they will share their knowledge of apothecary arts with the nation'''		* '''If the Yerende sept joins the Imperial Orcs, they will share their knowledge of apothecary arts with the nation'''
	The third major sept is the smallest - albeit still several hundred strong - and made up of orcs who once lived in the [[Ossium#Drownbark Forest\|Drownbark Forest]] and [[Ossium#~~Nearwald~~\|~~Nearwald~~]]. The ancestor whose name inspired the sept is remembered as a master of the arts of the [[Surgical skills#Apothecary\|apothecary]]. In the days before the rise of the Druj, the Yerende studied the lore of herbs and plants in peace in the Great Forest. The Druj, jealous of their arts, conquered Ossium to strip them of their secrets and force them into slavery, slaying their masters and forbidding them from learning the herbal arts. For centuries, though, they kept those arts alive in secret. Even the Druj are not all-seeing, for all that they may claim to have eyes everywhere. In the depths of the forests, the Yerende kept secret herb gardens, and handed down the forbidden lore of their ancestors from generation to generation, always afraid that they would be found out and suffer another purge.		The third major sept is the smallest - albeit still several hundred strong - and made up of orcs who once lived in the [[Ossium#Drownbark Forest\|Drownbark Forest]] and [[Ossium#Nearweald\|Nearweald]]. The ancestor whose name inspired the sept is remembered as a master of the arts of the [[Surgical skills#Apothecary\|apothecary]]. In the days before the rise of the Druj, the Yerende studied the lore of herbs and plants in peace in the Great Forest. The Druj, jealous of their arts, conquered Ossium to strip them of their secrets and force them into slavery, slaying their masters and forbidding them from learning the herbal arts. For centuries, though, they kept those arts alive in secret. Even the Druj are not all-seeing, for all that they may claim to have eyes everywhere. In the depths of the forests, the Yerende kept secret herb gardens, and handed down the forbidden lore of their ancestors from generation to generation, always afraid that they would be found out and suffer another purge.

	They have brought cuttings to Skarsind with them - not only of the [[herbs]] familiar to every physick and apothecary but plenty of less-magical plants with helpful medicinal and narcotic properties. They have also brought with them their most prized possession - a small amount of cultivable ''orcsroot'' - the peculiar magical mandrake the Empire calls [[realmsroot]]. Now they are free, they plan to cultivate these seeds and grow their own herb gardens in the open, teaching their children the lore of their ancestors without fear of being slaughtered. They're keen to speak with the [[Imperial_Orcs_economic_interests#Bonesetters\|bonesetters]] and [[Surgical skills#physicks\|physicks]] among the Imperial orcs... but they are also cautious. Centuries of secrecy are not undone overnight.		They have brought cuttings to Skarsind with them - not only of the [[herbs]] familiar to every physick and apothecary but plenty of less-magical plants with helpful medicinal and narcotic properties. They have also brought with them their most prized possession - a small amount of cultivable ''orcsroot'' - the peculiar magical mandrake the Empire calls [[realmsroot]]. Now they are free, they plan to cultivate these seeds and grow their own herb gardens in the open, teaching their children the lore of their ancestors without fear of being slaughtered. They're keen to speak with the [[Imperial_Orcs_economic_interests#Bonesetters\|bonesetters]] and [[Surgical skills#physicks\|physicks]] among the Imperial orcs... but they are also cautious. Centuries of secrecy are not undone overnight.

Twiggy: /* Game Information */

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Game Information

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	* '''The requests of the septs are not time sensitive; they remain available as long as nothing significant changes'''		* '''The requests of the septs are not time sensitive; they remain available as long as nothing significant changes'''
	* '''You cannot currently create a character who belongs to one of these septs'''		* '''You cannot currently create a character who belongs to one of these septs'''
	We've added three qualities to three regions of Skarsind, marking where each of the three major sects of Ossean orcs have chosen to settle. At the moment, these qualities call out that the region has a large population of orcs who are foreigners - friendly to the Imperial Orcs but keeping themselves apart in their own enclaves. If the Imperial Orcs can bring these septs into the nation, we'll remove these qualities. Playing an orc that hails from one of the septs will become an option for new players in the Imperial orcs, and we'll add information to the wiki on them as a ~~[[Imperial_Orcs_lineage_and_species_attitudes#Unusual%20origins%20in%20play\|~~unusual origin]] for any Imperial Orc character. Like the existing options we will call out the elements that make them a unique roleplaying choice while still being true to the spirit of the nation.		We've added three qualities to three regions of Skarsind, marking where each of the three major sects of Ossean orcs have chosen to settle. At the moment, these qualities call out that the region has a large population of orcs who are foreigners - friendly to the Imperial Orcs but keeping themselves apart in their own enclaves. If the Imperial Orcs can bring these septs into the nation, we'll remove these qualities. Playing an orc that hails from one of the septs will become an option for new players in the Imperial orcs, and we'll add information to the wiki on them as a unusual origin for any Imperial Orc character. Like the existing options we will call out the elements that make them a unique roleplaying choice while still being true to the spirit of the nation.

	In addition, if the Imperial Orcs can convince two of these septs to join the orcs, they will have sufficient support that they will be able to raise and maintain a ''third'' orc army from Skarsind without needing to capture another territory.		In addition, if the Imperial Orcs can convince two of these septs to join the orcs, they will have sufficient support that they will be able to raise and maintain a ''third'' orc army from Skarsind without needing to capture another territory.

Twiggy at 01:47, 15 August 2025

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	* '''The Illarawm request a mandate from the Imperial Orcs assembly, and the construction of a temple'''		* '''The Illarawm request a mandate from the Imperial Orcs assembly, and the construction of a temple'''
	* '''The temple is an edifice that requires 60 wains of white granite, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''		* '''The temple is an edifice that requires 60 wains of white granite, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''
	* '''if the ~~Illarrawm~~ sept joins the Imperial Orcs it will share its knowledge of orc ancestors with its new nation'''		* '''if the Illarawm sept joins the Imperial Orcs it will share its knowledge of orc ancestors with its new nation'''
	Where many of the refugees from Ossium brought tools, precious keepsakes, food, and seeds with them from their former homes, the Illarawm sept brought something else. They brought bones. Hundreds and hundreds of bones, many of them still marked by the mud in which they had laid for decades or centuries. The bones of their ancestors.		Where many of the refugees from Ossium brought tools, precious keepsakes, food, and seeds with them from their former homes, the Illarawm sept brought something else. They brought bones. Hundreds and hundreds of bones, many of them still marked by the mud in which they had laid for decades or centuries. The bones of their ancestors.

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	They have brought cuttings to Skarsind with them - not only of the [[herbs]] familiar to every physick and apothecary but plenty of less-magical plants with helpful medicinal and narcotic properties. They have also brought with them their most prized possession - a small amount of cultivable ''orcsroot'' - the peculiar magical mandrake the Empire calls [[realmsroot]]. Now they are free, they plan to cultivate these seeds and grow their own herb gardens in the open, teaching their children the lore of their ancestors without fear of being slaughtered. They're keen to speak with the [[Imperial_Orcs_economic_interests#Bonesetters\|bonesetters]] and [[Surgical skills#physicks\|physicks]] among the Imperial orcs... but they are also cautious. Centuries of secrecy are not undone overnight.		They have brought cuttings to Skarsind with them - not only of the [[herbs]] familiar to every physick and apothecary but plenty of less-magical plants with helpful medicinal and narcotic properties. They have also brought with them their most prized possession - a small amount of cultivable ''orcsroot'' - the peculiar magical mandrake the Empire calls [[realmsroot]]. Now they are free, they plan to cultivate these seeds and grow their own herb gardens in the open, teaching their children the lore of their ancestors without fear of being slaughtered. They're keen to speak with the [[Imperial_Orcs_economic_interests#Bonesetters\|bonesetters]] and [[Surgical skills#physicks\|physicks]] among the Imperial orcs... but they are also cautious. Centuries of secrecy are not undone overnight.

	They are politely asking for the aid of the Imperial orcs in establishing a grand garden - a palace of flowers and plants - similar to the one many of them have seen in visions of their ancestors. This represents a significant undertaking, and will require a senate motion, 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months of work to complete. It will create a [[edifice]] that must be ceded to the Yerende, so that they can use it to grow plants and brew potions.		They are politely asking for the aid of the Imperial orcs in establishing a grand garden - a palace of flowers and plants - similar to the one many of them have seen in visions of their ancestors. This represents a significant undertaking, and will require a senate motion, 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months of work to complete. It will create an [[edifice]] that must be ceded to the Yerende, so that they can use it to grow plants and brew potions.

	===A Bouquet of Orcsroot===		===A Bouquet of Orcsroot===

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	The third major sept is the smallest - albeit still several hundred strong - and made up of orcs who once lived in the [[Ossium#Drownbark Forest\|Drownbark Forest]] and [[Ossium#Nearwald\|Nearwald]]. The ancestor whose name inspired the sept is remembered as a master of the arts of the [[Surgical skills#Apothecary\|apothecary]]. In the days before the rise of the Druj, the Yerende studied the lore of herbs and plants in peace in the Great Forest. The Druj, jealous of their arts, conquered Ossium to strip them of their secrets and force them into slavery, slaying their masters and forbidding them from learning the herbal arts. For centuries, though, they kept those arts alive in secret. Even the Druj are not all-seeing, for all that they may claim to have eyes everywhere. In the depths of the forests, the Yerende kept secret herb gardens, and handed down the forbidden lore of their ancestors from generation to generation, always afraid that they would be found out and suffer another purge.		The third major sept is the smallest - albeit still several hundred strong - and made up of orcs who once lived in the [[Ossium#Drownbark Forest\|Drownbark Forest]] and [[Ossium#Nearwald\|Nearwald]]. The ancestor whose name inspired the sept is remembered as a master of the arts of the [[Surgical skills#Apothecary\|apothecary]]. In the days before the rise of the Druj, the Yerende studied the lore of herbs and plants in peace in the Great Forest. The Druj, jealous of their arts, conquered Ossium to strip them of their secrets and force them into slavery, slaying their masters and forbidding them from learning the herbal arts. For centuries, though, they kept those arts alive in secret. Even the Druj are not all-seeing, for all that they may claim to have eyes everywhere. In the depths of the forests, the Yerende kept secret herb gardens, and handed down the forbidden lore of their ancestors from generation to generation, always afraid that they would be found out and suffer another purge.

	They have brought cuttings to Skarsind with them - not only of the [[herbs]] familiar to every ~~physic~~ and apothecary but plenty of less-magical plants with helpful medicinal and narcotic properties. They have also brought with them their most prized possession - a small amount of cultivable ''orcsroot'' - the peculiar magical mandrake the Empire calls [[realmsroot]]. Now they are free, they plan to cultivate these seeds and grow their own herb gardens in the open, teaching their children the lore of their ancestors without fear of being slaughtered. They're keen to speak with the [[Imperial_Orcs_economic_interests#Bonesetters\|bonesetters]] and [[Surgical skills#physicks\|physicks]] among the Imperial orcs... but they are also cautious. Centuries of secrecy are not undone overnight.		They have brought cuttings to Skarsind with them - not only of the [[herbs]] familiar to every physick and apothecary but plenty of less-magical plants with helpful medicinal and narcotic properties. They have also brought with them their most prized possession - a small amount of cultivable ''orcsroot'' - the peculiar magical mandrake the Empire calls [[realmsroot]]. Now they are free, they plan to cultivate these seeds and grow their own herb gardens in the open, teaching their children the lore of their ancestors without fear of being slaughtered. They're keen to speak with the [[Imperial_Orcs_economic_interests#Bonesetters\|bonesetters]] and [[Surgical skills#physicks\|physicks]] among the Imperial orcs... but they are also cautious. Centuries of secrecy are not undone overnight.

	They are politely asking for the aid of the Imperial orcs in establishing a grand garden - a palace of flowers and plants - similar to the one many of them have seen in visions of their ancestors. This represents a significant undertaking, and will require a senate motion, 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months of work to complete. It will create a [[edifice]] that must be ceded to the Yerende, so that they can use it to grow plants and brew potions.		They are politely asking for the aid of the Imperial orcs in establishing a grand garden - a palace of flowers and plants - similar to the one many of them have seen in visions of their ancestors. This represents a significant undertaking, and will require a senate motion, 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months of work to complete. It will create a [[edifice]] that must be ceded to the Yerende, so that they can use it to grow plants and brew potions.

	===A Bouquet of Orcsroot===		===A Bouquet of Orcsroot===
	If their palace of flowers and plants is built, the Yerende will join the Imperial Orcs. They are not warriors, but they are experts at the cultivation of medicinal plants and can serve the legions as ~~physics~~ and apothecaries. They also appear to have almost all of the very few actual magicians among the Ossean orcs - another secret lore they have kept alive in defiance of their Druj masters. Once they are part of the nation, they will share with the rest of the Imperial Orcs the details of their own herbal lore that predates the Druj conquest of Ossium. The key part of that lore is a set of potion recipes, unknown even to the Druj, that involve the use of [[realmsroot]] to create unique potions of particular value to orc magicians.		If their palace of flowers and plants is built, the Yerende will join the Imperial Orcs. They are not warriors, but they are experts at the cultivation of medicinal plants and can serve the legions as physicks and apothecaries. They also appear to have almost all of the very few actual magicians among the Ossean orcs - another secret lore they have kept alive in defiance of their Druj masters. Once they are part of the nation, they will share with the rest of the Imperial Orcs the details of their own herbal lore that predates the Druj conquest of Ossium. The key part of that lore is a set of potion recipes, unknown even to the Druj, that involve the use of [[realmsroot]] to create unique potions of particular value to orc magicians.

	==Hidden Lore==		==Hidden Lore==

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Matt at 10:18, 10 September 2024

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	Now they've reached Skarsind. They come through the pass and they see the spreading forests and open heaths, the bowl of Skarsind, and they are told that there are new lives for them here and some of them weep openly.		Now they've reached Skarsind. They come through the pass and they see the spreading forests and open heaths, the bowl of Skarsind, and they are told that there are new lives for them here and some of them weep openly.
	<div style="float:right; width: 500px; clear: right; margin-left: 20px;">{{SOP\|statement=We the preachers of Skarsind welcome the former subjugated tribes of the Druj residing in Ossium to travel to Skarsind to begin new lives in the legions as Imperial citizens.\|by=Skywise Fal, Imperial Orcs National\|when=Autumn Equinox 383YE\|vote= ~~with a greater majority~~ 55-0}}</div>		<div style="float:right; width: 500px; clear: right; margin-left: 20px;">{{SOP\|statement=We the preachers of Skarsind welcome the former subjugated tribes of the Druj residing in Ossium to travel to Skarsind to begin new lives in the legions as Imperial citizens.\|by=Skywise Fal, Imperial Orcs National\|when=Autumn Equinox 383YE\|vote=Greater Majority 55-0}}</div>

	==Open Hands==		==Open Hands==

Hailmur at 15:56, 6 May 2024

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	* '''The commission would be a folly built in Gildermark requiring 60 wains of mithril, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''		* '''The commission would be a folly built in Gildermark requiring 60 wains of mithril, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''
	* '''If the Ethengraw sept joins the Imperial Orcs, they will share their unquenchable fighting spirit and fighting techniques'''		* '''If the Ethengraw sept joins the Imperial Orcs, they will share their unquenchable fighting spirit and fighting techniques'''
	In their old stories, the Ethengraw once ruled the whole of Ossium, and the other septs gave them tribute. Their ancestors were rulers - some just and some unjust - advised by the powerful spirit of Ethengraw ~~herself~~, the orc who brought their people together under one banner in the distant mists of the past. Then the Druj rose, and cast them down, forcing the survivors to become subsistence farmers on the Galath Fields and northern Bittershore. When Imperial warriors came across the border into western Ossium from Karsk, the Druj ensured they were the first to face them and the first to die.		In their old stories, the Ethengraw once ruled the whole of Ossium, and the other septs gave them tribute. Their ancestors were rulers - some just and some unjust - advised by the powerful spirit of Ethengraw themself, the orc who brought their people together under one banner in the distant mists of the past. Then the Druj rose, and cast them down, forcing the survivors to become subsistence farmers on the Galath Fields and northern Bittershore. When Imperial warriors came across the border into western Ossium from Karsk, the Druj ensured they were the first to face them and the first to die.

	They chafed under the yoke of the Druj, and their ancestors raged at them to fight, but those who did fight met one of two fates. If they fought the Druj, they were made example of. If they fought anyone else, they were conscripted into the Druj armies and sent to fight and die in the Druj wars. The Ethengraw who survived learnt to hide their rage. In a story that resonates with the experiences of some Imperial Orcs, they fought in secret, digging underground chambers where, guided by their ancestors, they could keep the warrior traditions of their folk alive.		They chafed under the yoke of the Druj, and their ancestors raged at them to fight, but those who did fight met one of two fates. If they fought the Druj, they were made example of. If they fought anyone else, they were conscripted into the Druj armies and sent to fight and die in the Druj wars. The Ethengraw who survived learnt to hide their rage. In a story that resonates with the experiences of some Imperial Orcs, they fought in secret, digging underground chambers where, guided by their ancestors, they could keep the warrior traditions of their folk alive.

Hailmur: /* The Yerende */

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The Yerende

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	* '''The palace is a folly requiring 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''		* '''The palace is a folly requiring 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''
	* '''If the Yerende sept joins the Imperial Orcs, they will share their knowledge of apothecary arts with the nation'''		* '''If the Yerende sept joins the Imperial Orcs, they will share their knowledge of apothecary arts with the nation'''
	The third major sept is the smallest - albeit still several hundred strong - and made up of orcs who once lived in the [[Ossium#Drownbark Forest\|Drownbark Forest]] and [[Ossium#Nearwald\|Nearwald]]. The ancestor whose name ~~they bear~~ is remembered as a master of the arts of the [[Surgical skills#Apothecary\|apothecary]]. In the days before the rise of the Druj, the Yerende studied the lore of herbs and plants in peace in the Great Forest. The Druj, jealous of their arts, conquered Ossium to strip them of their secrets and force them into slavery, slaying their masters and forbidding them from learning the herbal arts. For centuries, though, they kept those arts alive in secret. Even the Druj are not all-seeing, for all that they may claim to have eyes everywhere. In the depths of the forests, the Yerende kept secret herb gardens, and handed down the forbidden lore of their ancestors from generation to generation, always afraid that they would be found out and suffer another purge.		The third major sept is the smallest - albeit still several hundred strong - and made up of orcs who once lived in the [[Ossium#Drownbark Forest\|Drownbark Forest]] and [[Ossium#Nearwald\|Nearwald]]. The ancestor whose name inspired the sept is remembered as a master of the arts of the [[Surgical skills#Apothecary\|apothecary]]. In the days before the rise of the Druj, the Yerende studied the lore of herbs and plants in peace in the Great Forest. The Druj, jealous of their arts, conquered Ossium to strip them of their secrets and force them into slavery, slaying their masters and forbidding them from learning the herbal arts. For centuries, though, they kept those arts alive in secret. Even the Druj are not all-seeing, for all that they may claim to have eyes everywhere. In the depths of the forests, the Yerende kept secret herb gardens, and handed down the forbidden lore of their ancestors from generation to generation, always afraid that they would be found out and suffer another purge.

	They have brought cuttings to Skarsind with them - not only of the [[herbs]] familiar to every physic and apothecary but plenty of less-magical plants with helpful medicinal and narcotic properties. They have also brought with them their most prized possession - a small amount of cultivable ''orcsroot'' - the peculiar magical mandrake the Empire calls [[realmsroot]]. Now they are free, they plan to cultivate these seeds and grow their own herb gardens in the open, teaching their children the lore of their ancestors without fear of being slaughtered. They're keen to speak with the [[Imperial_Orcs_economic_interests#Bonesetters\|bonesetters]] and [[Surgical skills#physicks\|physicks]] among the Imperial orcs... but they are also cautious. Centuries of secrecy are not undone overnight.		They have brought cuttings to Skarsind with them - not only of the [[herbs]] familiar to every physic and apothecary but plenty of less-magical plants with helpful medicinal and narcotic properties. They have also brought with them their most prized possession - a small amount of cultivable ''orcsroot'' - the peculiar magical mandrake the Empire calls [[realmsroot]]. Now they are free, they plan to cultivate these seeds and grow their own herb gardens in the open, teaching their children the lore of their ancestors without fear of being slaughtered. They're keen to speak with the [[Imperial_Orcs_economic_interests#Bonesetters\|bonesetters]] and [[Surgical skills#physicks\|physicks]] among the Imperial orcs... but they are also cautious. Centuries of secrecy are not undone overnight.

Matt: /* The Ethengraw */

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The Ethengraw

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	Burnt into the psyche of the Ethengraw is a towering resentment and frustration that they have been forced to serve others. The Druj were careful to keep them under control, fearing rebellion. No Ethengraw in living memory has ever wielded a weapon they actually owned. Their former Bone Serpent masters took a perverse pleasure in denying them any weapons or armour of their own, until the moment came that they must fight the enemies of the Druj. More than anything else, they want to have weapons that are ''theirs''. That belong solely to them.		Burnt into the psyche of the Ethengraw is a towering resentment and frustration that they have been forced to serve others. The Druj were careful to keep them under control, fearing rebellion. No Ethengraw in living memory has ever wielded a weapon they actually owned. Their former Bone Serpent masters took a perverse pleasure in denying them any weapons or armour of their own, until the moment came that they must fight the enemies of the Druj. More than anything else, they want to have weapons that are ''theirs''. That belong solely to them.

	This takes a little while to explain, and while the simple solution is to ''give'' them weapons the Ethengraw want more. They want to make their own weapons, and to stand beside the other ''septs of the Imperial Orcs'' (as they insist on referring to the legions) as equals. Not a bribe to convince them to join the nation, but a gift of opportunity given without expectation. Without a powerful gesture they will never see fighting for the Imperial Orcs as any different to fighting for the Druj. They will farm, feed themselves, and sell their surplus to their neighbours and they'll practice their fighting traditions in the open... but they will not ~~become~~ join their banners to those of the Imperial Orcs.		This takes a little while to explain, and while the simple solution is to ''give'' them weapons the Ethengraw want more. They want to make their own weapons, and to stand beside the other ''septs of the Imperial Orcs'' (as they insist on referring to the legions) as equals. Not a bribe to convince them to join the nation, but a gift of opportunity given without expectation. Without a powerful gesture they will never see fighting for the Imperial Orcs as any different to fighting for the Druj. They will farm, feed themselves, and sell their surplus to their neighbours and they'll practice their fighting traditions in the open... but they will not join their banners to those of the Imperial Orcs.

	After a great deal of discussion, the solution appears to be to provide the Ethengraw sept with smithies and armouries that they will own. They'll use them to make their own weapons and armour, and once they have accoutred themselves as warriors, then they'll speak to the egregore and find a place among the Imperial Orcs. Construction on the scale that will be necessary will require a [[folly]] costing 60 wains of mithril, 120 crowns, and six months to complete. It will require a [[Senate motion]], would need to be ceded to the Ethengraw and would count toward the limited number of [[commission\|commissions]].		After a great deal of discussion, the solution appears to be to provide the Ethengraw sept with smithies and armouries that they will own. They'll use them to make their own weapons and armour, and once they have accoutred themselves as warriors, then they'll speak to the egregore and find a place among the Imperial Orcs. Construction on the scale that will be necessary will require a [[folly]] costing 60 wains of mithril, 120 crowns, and six months to complete. It will require a [[Senate motion]], would need to be ceded to the Ethengraw and would count toward the limited number of [[commission\|commissions]].

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	In addition, if the Imperial Orcs can convince two of these septs to join the orcs, they will have sufficient support that they will be able to raise and maintain a ''third'' orc army from Skarsind without needing to capture another territory.		In addition, if the Imperial Orcs can convince two of these septs to join the orcs, they will have sufficient support that they will be able to raise and maintain a ''third'' orc army from Skarsind without needing to capture another territory.

	Each of the three septs has one or more things that they want from the Imperial Orcs before they will become part of the nation. In each case they are represented in game terms as [[~~folly~~\|~~follies~~]]. While they will obviously provide benefits, they will be solely for the people of the sept, and must be ceded to the sept in question to have any effect. Future opportunities related to the smithies, temple, and palace could arise but the default assumption will be that they don't provide the effects of a [[sinecure]] or [[great work]] because they are built purely for the benefit of the septs not the nation as a whole.		Each of the three septs has one or more things that they want from the Imperial Orcs before they will become part of the nation. In each case they are represented in game terms as [[edifice\|edifices]]. While they will obviously provide benefits, they will be solely for the people of the sept, and must be ceded to the sept in question to have any effect. Future opportunities related to the smithies, temple, and palace could arise but the default assumption will be that they don't provide the effects of a [[sinecure]] or [[great work]] because they are built purely for the benefit of the septs not the nation as a whole.

	These requests are not time limited or time sensitive, and remain available unless something significant changes in Skarsind. In addition to providing the potential to raise a third army, each of the three septs brings their own benefits if they become part of the Imperial Orcs.		These requests are not time limited or time sensitive, and remain available unless something significant changes in Skarsind. In addition to providing the potential to raise a third army, each of the three septs brings their own benefits if they become part of the Imperial Orcs.
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	* '''Settled in Gildermark'''		* '''Settled in Gildermark'''
	* '''The Ethengraw wish for a combination of smithy and armoury so they can craft their own weapons and armour'''		* '''The Ethengraw wish for a combination of smithy and armoury so they can craft their own weapons and armour'''
	* '''The commission would be ~~a folly~~ built in Gildermark requiring 60 wains of mithril, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''		* '''The commission would be an edifice built in Gildermark requiring 60 wains of mithril, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''
	* '''If the Ethengraw sept joins the Imperial Orcs, they will share their unquenchable fighting spirit and fighting techniques'''		* '''If the Ethengraw sept joins the Imperial Orcs, they will share their unquenchable fighting spirit and fighting techniques'''
	In their old stories, the Ethengraw once ruled the whole of Ossium, and the other septs gave them tribute. Their ancestors were rulers - some just and some unjust - advised by the powerful spirit of Ethengraw themself, the orc who brought their people together under one banner in the distant mists of the past. Then the Druj rose, and cast them down, forcing the survivors to become subsistence farmers on the Galath Fields and northern Bittershore. When Imperial warriors came across the border into western Ossium from Karsk, the Druj ensured they were the first to face them and the first to die.		In their old stories, the Ethengraw once ruled the whole of Ossium, and the other septs gave them tribute. Their ancestors were rulers - some just and some unjust - advised by the powerful spirit of Ethengraw themself, the orc who brought their people together under one banner in the distant mists of the past. Then the Druj rose, and cast them down, forcing the survivors to become subsistence farmers on the Galath Fields and northern Bittershore. When Imperial warriors came across the border into western Ossium from Karsk, the Druj ensured they were the first to face them and the first to die.
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	This takes a little while to explain, and while the simple solution is to ''give'' them weapons the Ethengraw want more. They want to make their own weapons, and to stand beside the other ''septs of the Imperial Orcs'' (as they insist on referring to the legions) as equals. Not a bribe to convince them to join the nation, but a gift of opportunity given without expectation. Without a powerful gesture they will never see fighting for the Imperial Orcs as any different to fighting for the Druj. They will farm, feed themselves, and sell their surplus to their neighbours and they'll practice their fighting traditions in the open... but they will not join their banners to those of the Imperial Orcs.		This takes a little while to explain, and while the simple solution is to ''give'' them weapons the Ethengraw want more. They want to make their own weapons, and to stand beside the other ''septs of the Imperial Orcs'' (as they insist on referring to the legions) as equals. Not a bribe to convince them to join the nation, but a gift of opportunity given without expectation. Without a powerful gesture they will never see fighting for the Imperial Orcs as any different to fighting for the Druj. They will farm, feed themselves, and sell their surplus to their neighbours and they'll practice their fighting traditions in the open... but they will not join their banners to those of the Imperial Orcs.

	After a great deal of discussion, the solution appears to be to provide the Ethengraw sept with smithies and armouries that they will own. They'll use them to make their own weapons and armour, and once they have accoutred themselves as warriors, then they'll speak to the egregore and find a place among the Imperial Orcs. Construction on the scale that will be necessary will require a [[~~folly~~]] costing 60 wains of mithril, 120 crowns, and six months to complete. It will require a [[Senate motion]], would need to be ceded to the Ethengraw and would count toward the limited number of [[commission\|commissions]].		After a great deal of discussion, the solution appears to be to provide the Ethengraw sept with smithies and armouries that they will own. They'll use them to make their own weapons and armour, and once they have accoutred themselves as warriors, then they'll speak to the egregore and find a place among the Imperial Orcs. Construction on the scale that will be necessary will require an [[edifice]] costing 60 wains of mithril, 120 crowns, and six months to complete. It will require a [[Senate motion]], would need to be ceded to the Ethengraw and would count toward the limited number of [[commission\|commissions]].
	===Memory of War===		===Memory of War===
	If the armoury-smithies are built, the Ethengraw will join the Imperial Orcs. They will bring with them their unquenchable fighting spirit, and the techniques they have honed over the centuries. They would form a powerful core for any new Imperial Orc [[Imperial_army\|army]]. Their inclusion would provide opportunities to muster a new army and an opportunity for a unique quality that reflects the Ethengraw fighting arts.		If the armoury-smithies are built, the Ethengraw will join the Imperial Orcs. They will bring with them their unquenchable fighting spirit, and the techniques they have honed over the centuries. They would form a powerful core for any new Imperial Orc [[Imperial_army\|army]]. Their inclusion would provide opportunities to muster a new army and an opportunity for a unique quality that reflects the Ethengraw fighting arts.
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	* '''Settled in Southpine'''		* '''Settled in Southpine'''
	* '''The Illarawm request a mandate from the Imperial Orcs assembly, and the construction of a temple'''		* '''The Illarawm request a mandate from the Imperial Orcs assembly, and the construction of a temple'''
	* '''The temple is ~~a folly~~ that requires 60 wains of white granite, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''		* '''The temple is an edifice that requires 60 wains of white granite, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''
	* '''if the Illarrawm sept joins the Imperial Orcs it will share its knowledge of orc ancestors with its new nation'''		* '''if the Illarrawm sept joins the Imperial Orcs it will share its knowledge of orc ancestors with its new nation'''
	Where many of the refugees from Ossium brought tools, precious keepsakes, food, and seeds with them from their former homes, the Illarawm sept brought something else. They brought bones. Hundreds and hundreds of bones, many of them still marked by the mud in which they had laid for decades or centuries. The bones of their ancestors.		Where many of the refugees from Ossium brought tools, precious keepsakes, food, and seeds with them from their former homes, the Illarawm sept brought something else. They brought bones. Hundreds and hundreds of bones, many of them still marked by the mud in which they had laid for decades or centuries. The bones of their ancestors.
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	If this mandate is passed, any concerns about the Illarawm's peculiar beliefs will be laid to rest before they have a chance to propagate. It will also reassure the Illarawm that they will not be forced to give up their beliefs to become Imperial Orcs - something they are categorically not prepared to do.		If this mandate is passed, any concerns about the Illarawm's peculiar beliefs will be laid to rest before they have a chance to propagate. It will also reassure the Illarawm that they will not be forced to give up their beliefs to become Imperial Orcs - something they are categorically not prepared to do.

	Secondly, they would like a great ossuary where they can store the bones they have saved from Ossium, any other bones they can recover from the east, and the bones of each generation as they pass from life into death. A commission on the scale they are requesting will cost 60 wains of white granite, 120 crowns in labour costs, and take six months to complete. It would be a [[~~folly~~]] that would need to be ceded to the Illarawm and would be in the control of the mystagogues of the Illarawm sept.		Secondly, they would like a great ossuary where they can store the bones they have saved from Ossium, any other bones they can recover from the east, and the bones of each generation as they pass from life into death. A commission on the scale they are requesting will cost 60 wains of white granite, 120 crowns in labour costs, and take six months to complete. It would be an [[edifice]] that would need to be ceded to the Illarawm and would be in the control of the mystagogues of the Illarawm sept.
	===A Bridge to the Ancestors===		===A Bridge to the Ancestors===
	If the ossuary is built, and the mandate upheld, any obstacles to the Illarawm sept joining the Imperial Orcs will be removed. Their people will embrace the egregore, and become part of the nation. In addition, their mystagogues will share their knowledge of the ancestors with the Imperial Orcs - they make the outlandish claim that doing so will allow the Imperial Orcs to hear the ancestors of the Illarawm just as they hear their own ancestors - and will also offer their hard-won expertise to the rest of the nation helping them to better hear the voices of their own ancestors.		If the ossuary is built, and the mandate upheld, any obstacles to the Illarawm sept joining the Imperial Orcs will be removed. Their people will embrace the egregore, and become part of the nation. In addition, their mystagogues will share their knowledge of the ancestors with the Imperial Orcs - they make the outlandish claim that doing so will allow the Imperial Orcs to hear the ancestors of the Illarawm just as they hear their own ancestors - and will also offer their hard-won expertise to the rest of the nation helping them to better hear the voices of their own ancestors.
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	* '''Settled in Solvihill'''		* '''Settled in Solvihill'''
	* '''The Yerende request a palace of flowers and plants to practice their herbal arts'''		* '''The Yerende request a palace of flowers and plants to practice their herbal arts'''
	* '''The palace is ~~a folly~~ requiring 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''		* '''The palace is an edifice requiring 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months to complete'''
	* '''If the Yerende sept joins the Imperial Orcs, they will share their knowledge of apothecary arts with the nation'''		* '''If the Yerende sept joins the Imperial Orcs, they will share their knowledge of apothecary arts with the nation'''
	The third major sept is the smallest - albeit still several hundred strong - and made up of orcs who once lived in the [[Ossium#Drownbark Forest\|Drownbark Forest]] and [[Ossium#Nearwald\|Nearwald]]. The ancestor whose name inspired the sept is remembered as a master of the arts of the [[Surgical skills#Apothecary\|apothecary]]. In the days before the rise of the Druj, the Yerende studied the lore of herbs and plants in peace in the Great Forest. The Druj, jealous of their arts, conquered Ossium to strip them of their secrets and force them into slavery, slaying their masters and forbidding them from learning the herbal arts. For centuries, though, they kept those arts alive in secret. Even the Druj are not all-seeing, for all that they may claim to have eyes everywhere. In the depths of the forests, the Yerende kept secret herb gardens, and handed down the forbidden lore of their ancestors from generation to generation, always afraid that they would be found out and suffer another purge.		The third major sept is the smallest - albeit still several hundred strong - and made up of orcs who once lived in the [[Ossium#Drownbark Forest\|Drownbark Forest]] and [[Ossium#Nearwald\|Nearwald]]. The ancestor whose name inspired the sept is remembered as a master of the arts of the [[Surgical skills#Apothecary\|apothecary]]. In the days before the rise of the Druj, the Yerende studied the lore of herbs and plants in peace in the Great Forest. The Druj, jealous of their arts, conquered Ossium to strip them of their secrets and force them into slavery, slaying their masters and forbidding them from learning the herbal arts. For centuries, though, they kept those arts alive in secret. Even the Druj are not all-seeing, for all that they may claim to have eyes everywhere. In the depths of the forests, the Yerende kept secret herb gardens, and handed down the forbidden lore of their ancestors from generation to generation, always afraid that they would be found out and suffer another purge.
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	They have brought cuttings to Skarsind with them - not only of the [[herbs]] familiar to every physic and apothecary but plenty of less-magical plants with helpful medicinal and narcotic properties. They have also brought with them their most prized possession - a small amount of cultivable ''orcsroot'' - the peculiar magical mandrake the Empire calls [[realmsroot]]. Now they are free, they plan to cultivate these seeds and grow their own herb gardens in the open, teaching their children the lore of their ancestors without fear of being slaughtered. They're keen to speak with the [[Imperial_Orcs_economic_interests#Bonesetters\|bonesetters]] and [[Surgical skills#physicks\|physicks]] among the Imperial orcs... but they are also cautious. Centuries of secrecy are not undone overnight.		They have brought cuttings to Skarsind with them - not only of the [[herbs]] familiar to every physic and apothecary but plenty of less-magical plants with helpful medicinal and narcotic properties. They have also brought with them their most prized possession - a small amount of cultivable ''orcsroot'' - the peculiar magical mandrake the Empire calls [[realmsroot]]. Now they are free, they plan to cultivate these seeds and grow their own herb gardens in the open, teaching their children the lore of their ancestors without fear of being slaughtered. They're keen to speak with the [[Imperial_Orcs_economic_interests#Bonesetters\|bonesetters]] and [[Surgical skills#physicks\|physicks]] among the Imperial orcs... but they are also cautious. Centuries of secrecy are not undone overnight.

	They are politely asking for the aid of the Imperial orcs in establishing a grand garden - a palace of flowers and plants - similar to the one many of them have seen in visions of their ancestors. This represents a significant undertaking, and will require a senate motion, 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months of work to complete. It will create a [[~~folly~~]] that must be ceded to the Yerende, so that they can use it to grow plants and brew potions.		They are politely asking for the aid of the Imperial orcs in establishing a grand garden - a palace of flowers and plants - similar to the one many of them have seen in visions of their ancestors. This represents a significant undertaking, and will require a senate motion, 60 wains of weirwood, 120 crowns, and 6 months of work to complete. It will create a [[edifice]] that must be ceded to the Yerende, so that they can use it to grow plants and brew potions.

	===A Bouquet of Orcsroot===		===A Bouquet of Orcsroot===
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	==Hidden Lore==		==Hidden Lore==
	* '''None of the Ossean septs will share their lore with the Imperial Orcs as long as they remain foreigners'''		* '''None of the Ossean septs will share their lore with the Imperial Orcs as long as they remain foreigners'''
	Whatever lore the Ossean septs possess there is no way for the Empire to find out more without building the relevant ~~folly~~. The Yerende will not share the secrets of their potions with the Imperial Orcs, how they are made or what they do, unless the Empire builds the garden they have requested. The only way to discover what quality an army that included the Ethengraw might possess is to build the smithies and armouries they have requested. Likewise the Illarawm will not share their secrets without their ossuary.		Whatever lore the Ossean septs possess there is no way for the Empire to find out more without building the relevant edifice. The Yerende will not share the secrets of their potions with the Imperial Orcs, how they are made or what they do, unless the Empire builds the garden they have requested. The only way to discover what quality an army that included the Ethengraw might possess is to build the smithies and armouries they have requested. Likewise the Illarawm will not share their secrets without their ossuary.

	==Settled Fate==		==Settled Fate==