Create titles of Civilian Commissioners - Revision history

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Synod" to "[[Synod"

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Text replacement - "[[Imperial Synod" to "[[Synod"

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	* Any commissions of sinecures or ministries authorised by the Civilian Commissioner will automatically create titles when they are completed.		* Any commissions of sinecures or ministries authorised by the Civilian Commissioner will automatically create titles when they are completed.
	* The holders of these titles will be appointed by the Senators of that nation as national positions.		* The holders of these titles will be appointed by the Senators of that nation as national positions.
	* To use their powers, the Civilian Commissioners must provide an announcement to the Civil Service, who present the decision to the Senate. No voting is possible by the Senate at this point, as the power has been delegated to the Civilian Commissioners. The [[~~Imperial~~ Synod]] may, however, choose to exercise their right to [[veto]] over the Civilian Commissioner's decision.		* To use their powers, the Civilian Commissioners must provide an announcement to the Civil Service, who present the decision to the Senate. No voting is possible by the Senate at this point, as the power has been delegated to the Civilian Commissioners. The [[Synod]] may, however, choose to exercise their right to [[veto]] over the Civilian Commissioner's decision.

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Twiggy at 15:09, 21 August 2025

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	* Raise an administrative motion to allow the Senate to consider a recommendation from the Civil Service to limit these titles to one commission per season		* Raise an administrative motion to allow the Senate to consider a recommendation from the Civil Service to limit these titles to one commission per season

	Creating a commission requires a considerable amount of work for the Imperial civil service, who must identify potential sites for the construction, clear land, check supply routes, as well as ensuring that sufficient skilled architects, engineers, and workers are available for such a large scale construction. There is a practical limit on the number of commissions that the Senate can ~~authorize~~ each season before the practical limits of the Civil Service and the Empire to arrange them is exhausted. This limit applies on the number of commissions approved, even if the commission is never funded, since much of the administrative work needed to assess the commission and prepare for it is done before the building begins.		Creating a commission requires a considerable amount of work for the Imperial civil service, who must identify potential sites for the construction, clear land, check supply routes, as well as ensuring that sufficient skilled architects, engineers, and workers are available for such a large scale construction. There is a practical limit on the number of commissions that the Senate can authorise each season before the practical limits of the Civil Service and the Empire to arrange them is exhausted. This limit applies on the number of commissions approved, even if the commission is never funded, since much of the administrative work needed to assess the commission and prepare for it is done before the building begins.

	This practical limit has not been an issue previously - since the number of commissions the Senate has approved has been well within the capacity of the Civil Service to support them (albeit only just at times). With the passage of this motion, any practical limit on the number of commissions that the Senate might approve has been removed - they might theoretically approve dozens or even scores of commissions - vastly more than the Empire has the ability to support.		This practical limit has not been an issue previously - since the number of commissions the Senate has approved has been well within the capacity of the Civil Service to support them (albeit only just at times). With the passage of this motion, any practical limit on the number of commissions that the Senate might approve has been removed - they might theoretically approve dozens or even scores of commissions - vastly more than the Empire has the ability to support.

Hastur at 18:01, 2 February 2022

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	[[Category: Senate Motion]]		[[Category: Senate Motion]]
			[[Category:379YE Winter]]
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Dre at 10:12, 2 July 2018

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	This practical limit has not been an issue previously - since the number of commissions the Senate has approved has been well within the capacity of the Civil Service to support them (albeit only just at times). With the passage of this motion, any practical limit on the number of commissions that the Senate might approve has been removed - they might theoretically approve dozens or even scores of commissions - vastly more than the Empire has the ability to support.		This practical limit has not been an issue previously - since the number of commissions the Senate has approved has been well within the capacity of the Civil Service to support them (albeit only just at times). With the passage of this motion, any practical limit on the number of commissions that the Senate might approve has been removed - they might theoretically approve dozens or even scores of commissions - vastly more than the Empire has the ability to support.

	The constitutional court are concerned that the likely outcome of this practical limit, once it becomes apparent, is that civilian commissioners will compete with each other to announce their commissions first, with permission going to the quickest commission, not the most appropriate. In light of this possibility, and ~~the~~ the fact that the senators were unaware of this practical limitations at the time that this motion was passed, the court have asked the civil service to raise an administrative motion recommending that the Senate amend all titles with the power of commission be allowed to announce a single commission per season.		The constitutional court are concerned that the likely outcome of this practical limit, once it becomes apparent, is that civilian commissioners will compete with each other to announce their commissions first, with permission going to the quickest commission, not the most appropriate. In light of this possibility, and the fact that the senators were unaware of this practical limitations at the time that this motion was passed, the court have asked the civil service to raise an administrative motion recommending that the Senate amend all titles with the power of commission be allowed to announce a single commission per season.

	There is no requirement for the Senate to accept this recommendation, this isn't a constitutional issue, it is a practical issue of the Empire's logistical capabilities. This functional limit of the Empire's capacity to support commissions will apply no matter what decision the Senate takes, it is a case for the Senate to decide how it wishes to allocate those resources.		There is no requirement for the Senate to accept this recommendation, this isn't a constitutional issue, it is a practical issue of the Empire's logistical capabilities. This functional limit of the Empire's capacity to support commissions will apply no matter what decision the Senate takes, it is a case for the Senate to decide how it wishes to allocate those resources.

	[[Category: Senate Motion]]		[[Category: Senate Motion]]

Rafferty: /* Campaign Outcome */

2016-06-03T14:47:11Z

Campaign Outcome

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	===Campaign Outcome===		===Campaign Outcome===
	* The Imperial title of [[Civilian Commissioner]] is created, one for each nation of the Empire.		* The Imperial title of [[Civilian Commissioner]] is created, one for each nation of the Empire.
			* The title was [[Amend powers of the Civilian Commissioners \|amended]] in Spring 380YE to limit the use of the power to once each season per commissioner

	===Constitution===		===Constitution===

Matt: /* Constitution */

2016-05-25T00:16:25Z

Constitution

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	The constitutional court are concerned that the likely outcome of this practical limit, once it becomes apparent, is that civilian commissioners will compete with each other to announce their commissions first, with permission going to the quickest commission, not the most appropriate. In light of this possibility, and the the fact that the senators were unaware of this practical limitations at the time that this motion was passed, the court have asked the civil service to raise an administrative motion recommending that the Senate amend all titles with the power of commission be allowed to announce a single commission per season.		The constitutional court are concerned that the likely outcome of this practical limit, once it becomes apparent, is that civilian commissioners will compete with each other to announce their commissions first, with permission going to the quickest commission, not the most appropriate. In light of this possibility, and the the fact that the senators were unaware of this practical limitations at the time that this motion was passed, the court have asked the civil service to raise an administrative motion recommending that the Senate amend all titles with the power of commission be allowed to announce a single commission per season.

	There is no requirement for the Senate to accept this recommendation, ~~but~~ the functional limit of the Empire's capacity to support commissions will apply no matter what decision the Senate takes.		There is no requirement for the Senate to accept this recommendation, this isn't a constitutional issue, it is a practical issue of the Empire's logistical capabilities. This functional limit of the Empire's capacity to support commissions will apply no matter what decision the Senate takes, it is a case for the Senate to decide how it wishes to allocate those resources.

	[[Category: Senate Motion]]		[[Category: Senate Motion]]

Matt at 00:15, 25 May 2016

2016-05-25T00:15:05Z

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	===Constitution===		===Constitution===
	~~This~~ motion ~~creates~~ the ~~title~~ of ~~Civilian Commissioner - one~~ for each ~~nation~~ of the Empire. If an ~~additional nation were ever permitted~~ to ~~join~~ the Empire, this motion ~~would cause~~ a ~~title~~ of ~~civilian commissioner~~ to ~~be automatically created for that nation~~.		* Clarify the limits of Imperial capacity to Commission
			* Raise an administrative motion to allow the Senate to consider a recommendation from the Civil Service to limit these titles to one commission per season

			Creating a commission requires a considerable amount of work for the Imperial civil service, who must identify potential sites for the construction, clear land, check supply routes, as well as ensuring that sufficient skilled architects, engineers, and workers are available for such a large scale construction. There is a practical limit on the number of commissions that the Senate can authorize each season before the practical limits of the Civil Service and the Empire to arrange them is exhausted. This limit applies on the number of commissions approved, even if the commission is never funded, since much of the administrative work needed to assess the commission and prepare for it is done before the building begins.

			This practical limit has not been an issue previously - since the number of commissions the Senate has approved has been well within the capacity of the Civil Service to support them (albeit only just at times). With the passage of this motion, any practical limit on the number of commissions that the Senate might approve has been removed - they might theoretically approve dozens or even scores of commissions - vastly more than the Empire has the ability to support.

			The constitutional court are concerned that the likely outcome of this practical limit, once it becomes apparent, is that civilian commissioners will compete with each other to announce their commissions first, with permission going to the quickest commission, not the most appropriate. In light of this possibility, and the the fact that the senators were unaware of this practical limitations at the time that this motion was passed, the court have asked the civil service to raise an administrative motion recommending that the Senate amend all titles with the power of commission be allowed to announce a single commission per season.

			There is no requirement for the Senate to accept this recommendation, but the functional limit of the Empire's capacity to support commissions will apply no matter what decision the Senate takes.

	[[Category: Senate Motion]]		[[Category: Senate Motion]]

Matt at 19:29, 24 May 2016

2016-05-24T19:29:20Z

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	===Campaign Outcome===		===Campaign Outcome===
			* The Imperial title of [[Civilian Commissioner]] is created, one for each nation of the Empire.
	* ~~One~~ Civilian Commissioner ~~title was~~ created in each nation.

	===Constitution===		===Constitution===

Matt at 19:28, 24 May 2016

2016-05-24T19:28:51Z

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	~~{{scrutiny}}~~
	{{Senate Motion}}		{{Senate Motion}}
	<ic>Commissioner Reformation motion for Constitutional Dignity.		<ic>Commissioner Reformation motion for Constitutional Dignity.
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	===Campaign Outcome===		===Campaign Outcome===

	* One Civilian Commissioner title was created in each nation.		* One Civilian Commissioner title was created in each nation.

	===Constitution===		===Constitution===
	* Should only be able to build in their own nation		This motion creates the title of Civilian Commissioner - one for each nation of the Empire. If an additional nation were ever permitted to join the Empire, this motion would cause a title of civilian commissioner to be automatically created for that nation.
	* Title should lay out procedure for use clearly
	* Synod veto - ~~suggestion is either that all announcements from~~ one ~~commissioner count as a single "motion"~~ for the ~~veto or restrict number~~ of ~~uses a season (Senator can raise only one motion, Commissioner currently has much greater power).~~
	* Outline process for ~~how power is used~~.

	[[Category: Senate Motion]]		[[Category: Senate Motion]]

Matt: /* Overview */

2016-05-24T19:19:56Z

Overview

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	* Civilian Commissioners are national titles, appointed by unanimous decision of the Senators of that nation.		* Civilian Commissioners are national titles, appointed by unanimous decision of the Senators of that nation.
	* Civilian Commissioners can commission the construction of [[sinecure]]s, [[Ministry\|ministries]], [[great work]]s and [[Folly\|follies]].		* Civilian Commissioners can commission the construction of [[sinecure]]s, [[Ministry\|ministries]], [[great work]]s and [[Folly\|follies]].
	* Any commissions of sinecures or ministries authorised by the Civilian Commissioner will automatically create titles when they are completed. ~~The Civilian Commissioner may choose to attach titles to the commission of follies or great works they authorise.~~ The holders of these titles will be appointed by the Senators of that nation as national positions.		* Any commissions of sinecures or ministries authorised by the Civilian Commissioner will automatically create titles when they are completed.
	* To use their powers, the Civilian Commissioners provide an announcement to the Civil Service, who present the decision to the Senate. No voting is possible by the Senate at this point, as the power has been delegated to the Civilian Commissioners. The [[Imperial Synod]] may, however, choose to exercise their right to [[veto]] over the Civilian Commissioner's decision.		* The holders of these titles will be appointed by the Senators of that nation as national positions.
			* To use their powers, the Civilian Commissioners must provide an announcement to the Civil Service, who present the decision to the Senate. No voting is possible by the Senate at this point, as the power has been delegated to the Civilian Commissioners. The [[Imperial Synod]] may, however, choose to exercise their right to [[veto]] over the Civilian Commissioner's decision.

	===Date===		===Date===