Challenge - Revision history

Matt: Text replacement - "Synod" to "Synod"

2026-01-16T09:37:22Z

Text replacement - "Synod" to "Synod"

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	<div style="float:left; width: 500px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Taking_Notes.png\|caption=A judgement of challenge allows the Synod to call for the re-election of a tenured title.\|align=left\|width=500}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 500px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Taking_Notes.png\|caption=A judgement of challenge allows the Synod to call for the re-election of a tenured title.\|align=left\|width=500}}</div>
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	The [[Imperial Constitution]] charges the [[~~Synod\|~~Synod]] with the responsibility to remove from office those citizens whose behaviour is deemed unvirtuous, which is most often done by use of [[revocation]]. In Autumn 384YE, an alternative judgement was suggested initially called "''virtuous challenge''" that relates specifically to Imperial titles with [[tenure]].		The [[Imperial Constitution]] charges the [[Synod]] with the responsibility to remove from office those citizens whose behaviour is deemed unvirtuous, which is most often done by use of [[revocation]]. In Autumn 384YE, an alternative judgement was suggested initially called "''virtuous challenge''" that relates specifically to Imperial titles with [[tenure]].

	Revocation is not always the right judgement because it is intended to be used when someone has proved they are unvirtuous, or have failed in the [[Imperial_title#Responsibilities\|responsibilities]] of the title. Challenge allows the Synod to consider if there might be a superior candidate for an Imperial position, a very different proposition to removing someone for a lack of virtue or a dereliction of duty.		Revocation is not always the right judgement because it is intended to be used when someone has proved they are unvirtuous, or have failed in the [[Imperial_title#Responsibilities\|responsibilities]] of the title. Challenge allows the Synod to consider if there might be a superior candidate for an Imperial position, a very different proposition to removing someone for a lack of virtue or a dereliction of duty.

Matt: Text replacement - "Military Council" to "Military Council"

2026-01-16T09:33:36Z

Text replacement - "Military Council" to "Military Council"

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	* The virtue assemblies may challenge the holder of a tenured position appointed by that assembly; at present, this only includes the [[Keeper of Emilio's Herbarium]] and the [[Claviger of the Basilica of Cora Holdfast]]		* The virtue assemblies may challenge the holder of a tenured position appointed by that assembly; at present, this only includes the [[Keeper of Emilio's Herbarium]] and the [[Claviger of the Basilica of Cora Holdfast]]
	* The national assemblies may challenge a national position in the [[Senate]], Synod or [[~~Military Council\|~~Military Council]]		* The national assemblies may challenge a national position in the [[Senate]], Synod or [[Military Council]]
	* The Assembly of Nine may Challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except [[the Throne]]		* The Assembly of Nine may Challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except [[the Throne]]
	* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne		* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne

Matt: Text replacement - "Senate" to "Senate"

2026-01-15T22:26:55Z

Text replacement - "Senate" to "Senate"

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	* The virtue assemblies may challenge the holder of a tenured position appointed by that assembly; at present, this only includes the [[Keeper of Emilio's Herbarium]] and the [[Claviger of the Basilica of Cora Holdfast]]		* The virtue assemblies may challenge the holder of a tenured position appointed by that assembly; at present, this only includes the [[Keeper of Emilio's Herbarium]] and the [[Claviger of the Basilica of Cora Holdfast]]
	* The national assemblies may challenge a national position in the [[~~Senate\|~~Senate]], Synod or [[Military Council\|Military Council]]		* The national assemblies may challenge a national position in the [[Senate]], Synod or [[Military Council\|Military Council]]
	* The Assembly of Nine may Challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except [[the Throne]]		* The Assembly of Nine may Challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except [[the Throne]]
	* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne		* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Conclave" to "[[Conclave"

2026-01-15T15:49:53Z

Text replacement - "[[Imperial Conclave" to "[[Conclave"

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	* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne		* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne

	Titles appointed via the [[Bourse]] and [[~~Imperial~~ Conclave]] can never be the subject of a Challenge.		Titles appointed via the [[Bourse]] and [[Conclave]] can never be the subject of a Challenge.

	When new Imperial titles are created, the Senate motion may specify which assembly or assemblies will be able to revoke the position, and this also determines which assemblies can issue a challenge for that position.		When new Imperial titles are created, the Senate motion may specify which assembly or assemblies will be able to revoke the position, and this also determines which assemblies can issue a challenge for that position.

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Bourse" to "[[Bourse"

2026-01-15T12:36:07Z

Text replacement - "[[Imperial Bourse" to "[[Bourse"

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	* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne		* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne

	Titles appointed via the [[~~Imperial~~ Bourse]] and [[Imperial Conclave]] can never be the subject of a Challenge.		Titles appointed via the [[Bourse]] and [[Imperial Conclave]] can never be the subject of a Challenge.

	When new Imperial titles are created, the Senate motion may specify which assembly or assemblies will be able to revoke the position, and this also determines which assemblies can issue a challenge for that position.		When new Imperial titles are created, the Senate motion may specify which assembly or assemblies will be able to revoke the position, and this also determines which assemblies can issue a challenge for that position.

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Senate" to "[[Senate"

2026-01-15T12:36:06Z

Text replacement - "[[Imperial Senate" to "[[Senate"

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	* The virtue assemblies may challenge the holder of a tenured position appointed by that assembly; at present, this only includes the [[Keeper of Emilio's Herbarium]] and the [[Claviger of the Basilica of Cora Holdfast]]		* The virtue assemblies may challenge the holder of a tenured position appointed by that assembly; at present, this only includes the [[Keeper of Emilio's Herbarium]] and the [[Claviger of the Basilica of Cora Holdfast]]
	* The national assemblies may challenge a national position in the [[~~Imperial~~ Senate\|Senate]], Synod or [[Military Council\|Military Council]]		* The national assemblies may challenge a national position in the [[Senate\|Senate]], Synod or [[Military Council\|Military Council]]
	* The Assembly of Nine may Challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except [[the Throne]]		* The Assembly of Nine may Challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except [[the Throne]]
	* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne		* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Synod" to "[[Synod"

2026-01-15T12:27:43Z

Text replacement - "[[Imperial Synod" to "[[Synod"

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	<div style="float:left; width: 500px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Taking_Notes.png\|caption=A judgement of challenge allows the Synod to call for the re-election of a tenured title.\|align=left\|width=500}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 500px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Taking_Notes.png\|caption=A judgement of challenge allows the Synod to call for the re-election of a tenured title.\|align=left\|width=500}}</div>
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	The [[Imperial Constitution]] charges the [[~~Imperial~~ Synod\|Synod]] with the responsibility to remove from office those citizens whose behaviour is deemed unvirtuous, which is most often done by use of [[revocation]]. In Autumn 384YE, an alternative judgement was suggested initially called "''virtuous challenge''" that relates specifically to Imperial titles with [[tenure]].		The [[Imperial Constitution]] charges the [[Synod\|Synod]] with the responsibility to remove from office those citizens whose behaviour is deemed unvirtuous, which is most often done by use of [[revocation]]. In Autumn 384YE, an alternative judgement was suggested initially called "''virtuous challenge''" that relates specifically to Imperial titles with [[tenure]].

	Revocation is not always the right judgement because it is intended to be used when someone has proved they are unvirtuous, or have failed in the [[Imperial_title#Responsibilities\|responsibilities]] of the title. Challenge allows the Synod to consider if there might be a superior candidate for an Imperial position, a very different proposition to removing someone for a lack of virtue or a dereliction of duty.		Revocation is not always the right judgement because it is intended to be used when someone has proved they are unvirtuous, or have failed in the [[Imperial_title#Responsibilities\|responsibilities]] of the title. Challenge allows the Synod to consider if there might be a superior candidate for an Imperial position, a very different proposition to removing someone for a lack of virtue or a dereliction of duty.

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Military Council" to "[[Military Council"

2026-01-15T12:23:50Z

Text replacement - "[[Imperial Military Council" to "[[Military Council"

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	* The virtue assemblies may challenge the holder of a tenured position appointed by that assembly; at present, this only includes the [[Keeper of Emilio's Herbarium]] and the [[Claviger of the Basilica of Cora Holdfast]]		* The virtue assemblies may challenge the holder of a tenured position appointed by that assembly; at present, this only includes the [[Keeper of Emilio's Herbarium]] and the [[Claviger of the Basilica of Cora Holdfast]]
	* The national assemblies may challenge a national position in the [[Imperial Senate\|Senate]], Synod or [[~~Imperial~~ Military Council\|Military Council]]		* The national assemblies may challenge a national position in the [[Imperial Senate\|Senate]], Synod or [[Military Council\|Military Council]]
	* The Assembly of Nine may Challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except [[the Throne]]		* The Assembly of Nine may Challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except [[the Throne]]
	* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne		* The General Assembly may challenge an Imperial or national position in the Senate, Synod or Military Council, except the Throne

Dre at 14:03, 12 May 2023

2023-05-12T14:03:57Z

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	Unlike a judgement of [[revocation]] there is no special outcome if the former incumbent holds their position. The only outcome is that a new challenge cannot be issued until a year has passed.		Unlike a judgement of [[revocation]] there is no special outcome if the former incumbent holds their position. The only outcome is that a new challenge cannot be issued until a year has passed.
	==Constitutional Notes==		==Constitutional Notes==
	The Constitutional Court has some concerns around the stipulation that the election take place at the next summit;. After a great deal of discussion they have determined to observe the use of the judgement, and to adjust the timing of the election if it becomes ~~neccessary~~.		The Constitutional Court has some concerns around the stipulation that the election take place at the next summit;. After a great deal of discussion they have determined to observe the use of the judgement, and to adjust the timing of the election if it becomes necessary.

	The Throne is specifically exempt from a judgement of challenge. The process of electing a Throne is convoluted enough that even restricted to one per year a judgement of challenge would be extremely disruptive.		The Throne is specifically exempt from a judgement of challenge. The process of electing a Throne is convoluted enough that even restricted to one per year a judgement of challenge would be extremely disruptive.
	{{Synod Further Reading}}		{{Synod Further Reading}}

Matt at 00:01, 12 May 2023

2023-05-12T00:01:13Z

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	The [[Imperial Constitution]] charges the [[Imperial Synod\|Synod]] with the responsibility to remove from office those citizens whose behaviour is deemed unvirtuous, which is most often done by use of [[revocation]]. In Autumn 384YE, an alternative judgement was suggested initially called "''virtuous challenge''" that relates specifically to Imperial titles with [[tenure]].		The [[Imperial Constitution]] charges the [[Imperial Synod\|Synod]] with the responsibility to remove from office those citizens whose behaviour is deemed unvirtuous, which is most often done by use of [[revocation]]. In Autumn 384YE, an alternative judgement was suggested initially called "''virtuous challenge''" that relates specifically to Imperial titles with [[tenure]].

	Revocation is not always the right judgement because it is intended to be used when someone has proved they are unvirtuous, or have failed in the [[Imperial_title#Responsibilities\|responsibilities]] of the title.		Revocation is not always the right judgement because it is intended to be used when someone has proved they are unvirtuous, or have failed in the [[Imperial_title#Responsibilities\|responsibilities]] of the title. Challenge allows the Synod to consider if there might be a superior candidate for an Imperial position, a very different proposition to removing someone for a lack of virtue or a dereliction of duty.

	==Judgement==		==Judgement==
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	New elections will proceed in the normal manner for the title, as arranged by the Civil Service. If there is no clear winner of this election (for example, if it requires unanimous agreement of the Senators of a nation, and this does not happen during the following summit), then this is treated as ''no'' citizen winning the election, and the incumbent loses the title at the end of that summit.		New elections will proceed in the normal manner for the title, as arranged by the Civil Service. If there is no clear winner of this election (for example, if it requires unanimous agreement of the Senators of a nation, and this does not happen during the following summit), then this is treated as ''no'' citizen winning the election, and the incumbent loses the title at the end of that summit.

	If the subject is not present in the Hub for the verdict, then it is the responsibility of the Tribune to inform them of the outcome of the judgement. ~~It is common for~~ Synod members to confront a citizen to inform them of the outcome of the challenge personally - to announce that there will be a new election at the following summit.		If the subject is not present in the Hub for the verdict, then it is the responsibility of the Tribune to inform them of the outcome of the judgement. Synod members may choose to confront a citizen to inform them of the outcome of the challenge personally - to announce that there will be a new election at the following summit.

	Regardless of whether the challenge is upheld or not, a new judgement of challenge cannot be issued against that title until a year has passed. For example, if a challenge is made a the Spring Equinox, a new challenge cannot be made until the following Spring Equinox.		Regardless of whether the challenge is upheld or not, a new judgement of challenge cannot be issued against that title until a year has passed. For example, if a challenge is made a the Spring Equinox, a new challenge cannot be made until the following Spring Equinox.

	==Reappointment==		==Reappointment==
	Unlike a judgement of [[revocation]] there is no special outcome if the former incumbent holds their position. The ~~rule~~ that a challenge cannot be issued until a year has passed.		Unlike a judgement of [[revocation]] there is no special outcome if the former incumbent holds their position. The only outcome is that a new challenge cannot be issued until a year has passed.
	==Constitutional Notes==		==Constitutional Notes==
	The Constitutional Court has some concerns around the stipulation that the election take place at the next summit;. After a great deal of discussion they have determined to observe the use of the judgement, and to adjust the timing of the election if it becomes neccessary.		The Constitutional Court has some concerns around the stipulation that the election take place at the next summit;. After a great deal of discussion they have determined to observe the use of the judgement, and to adjust the timing of the election if it becomes neccessary.