A strange land - Revision history

Twiggy at 14:36, 19 March 2026

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	The Imperial Senate [[Cede region of Misericorde to Sand Fishers\|ceded]] the region of [[Holberg#Misericorde\|Misericorde]] to the Sand Fishers.		The Imperial Senate [[Cede region of Misericorde to Sand Fishers\|ceded]] the region of [[Holberg#Misericorde\|Misericorde]] to the Sand Fishers.

	As of Winter 383YE, the other opportunities regarding Ossium are no longer available..		As of Winter 383YE, the other opportunities regarding Ossium are no longer available.

Matt: Text replacement - "[[Imperial Synod" to "[[Synod"

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Text replacement - "[[Imperial Synod" to "[[Synod"

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	To be most effective the mandate will need to identify a single virtue that is being preached, as well as one of the accepted pieces of guidance, alongside an introduction that explains the relevance or application of that preaching to these people.		To be most effective the mandate will need to identify a single virtue that is being preached, as well as one of the accepted pieces of guidance, alongside an introduction that explains the relevance or application of that preaching to these people.

	Of course that does leave the issue of which virtue to choose. That decision might well be difficult - but is obviously a matter for the [[~~Imperial~~ Synod]] not the civil service. The [[Tribune_of_the_Synod\|tribune]] clarifies that if two or more assemblies both attempt to submit mandates to proselytize their virtue to Ossium in the coming season then they will be regarded as [[Mandate#Competing_Mandates\|competing mandates]].		Of course that does leave the issue of which virtue to choose. That decision might well be difficult - but is obviously a matter for the [[Synod]] not the civil service. The [[Tribune_of_the_Synod\|tribune]] clarifies that if two or more assemblies both attempt to submit mandates to proselytize their virtue to Ossium in the coming season then they will be regarded as [[Mandate#Competing_Mandates\|competing mandates]].

	To be effective, these mandates could need to be raised in either an appropriate Virtue assembly, or in the General assembly.		To be effective, these mandates could need to be raised in either an appropriate Virtue assembly, or in the General assembly.

Novemberalice at 11:49, 23 August 2022

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	===Cold Words===		===Cold Words===
	* '''The Thule are prepared to offer the Sand Fishers and other native orcs sanctuary in [[Otkodov]].'''		* '''The Thule are prepared to offer the Sand Fishers and other native orcs sanctuary in [[Otkodov]].'''
	There is another option that could be considered, though it comes from a strange and dubious source. The Thule make a formal approach to the [[Ambassador to Otkodov\|ambassador's]] office to inform the Empire that they would be happy to send representatives of the Thule Dragons to speak to the Sand Fishers and the other subject orcs that live in Ossium. They would be happy to move these orcs to ~~Skuld~~, where a home could be found for them on the banks of the Luhguren. They could make new lives for themselves there, as part of the Thule nation.		There is another option that could be considered, though it comes from a strange and dubious source. The Thule make a formal approach to the [[Ambassador to Otkodov\|ambassador's]] office to inform the Empire that they would be happy to send representatives of the Thule Dragons to speak to the Sand Fishers and the other subject orcs that live in Ossium. They would be happy to move these orcs to Sküld, where a home could be found for them on the banks of the Luhguren. They could make new lives for themselves there, as part of the Thule nation.

	The Thule stress that nobody would be forced to leave - their intention would be to send warlocks to speak to the orcs and make the offer directly to them. They would point out that the territory has been granted to the Varushkans, a people with limited tolerance for orcs as a people, and that there would be no future for them in Ossium, but the Dragons would welcome them in the far north, and they would be given the means to establish new homes far from the Druj menace.		The Thule stress that nobody would be forced to leave - their intention would be to send warlocks to speak to the orcs and make the offer directly to them. They would point out that the territory has been granted to the Varushkans, a people with limited tolerance for orcs as a people, and that there would be no future for them in Ossium, but the Dragons would welcome them in the far north, and they would be given the means to establish new homes far from the Druj menace.

Matt: /* Dank Forests */

2022-04-03T23:17:14Z

Dank Forests

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	The idea of ceding Misericorde seems questionable on first consideration, but there are a number of advantages, not just for Ossium. There are very few legitimate Imperial citizens living in Misericorde, the forests have long been the haunts of bandits and brigands. The place has a natural draw for criminals fleeing Holberg, it naturally attracts the worst kind of people. The Sand Fishers are not about to start hunting fugitives down, but once they had established themselves along the coast they could be an invaluable aid to any magistrates pursuing law-breakers hiding here.		The idea of ceding Misericorde seems questionable on first consideration, but there are a number of advantages, not just for Ossium. There are very few legitimate Imperial citizens living in Misericorde, the forests have long been the haunts of bandits and brigands. The place has a natural draw for criminals fleeing Holberg, it naturally attracts the worst kind of people. The Sand Fishers are not about to start hunting fugitives down, but once they had established themselves along the coast they could be an invaluable aid to any magistrates pursuing law-breakers hiding here.

	More importantly, the Sand Fishers would be able to thrive in the marshy land along the Semmerlak and the river that flows out of it, something no citizen of the League has ever managed. Once they established themselves, they would be able to fish the Semmerlak as they do ~~know~~, as well as hunt and gather from the forests. That would bring significant benefits to the city of Holberg, as merchants could trade salted fish, hides, timber, and other valuable goods produced by the Sand Fishers for metal tools and similar. It would be highly profitable, spawning new businesses quickly and increasing taxation for the territory by 8 thrones by the end of the year.		More importantly, the Sand Fishers would be able to thrive in the marshy land along the Semmerlak and the river that flows out of it, something no citizen of the League has ever managed. Once they established themselves, they would be able to fish the Semmerlak as they do now, as well as hunt and gather from the forests. That would bring significant benefits to the city of Holberg, as merchants could trade salted fish, hides, timber, and other valuable goods produced by the Sand Fishers for metal tools and similar. It would be highly profitable, spawning new businesses quickly and increasing taxation for the territory by 8 thrones by the end of the year.

	Obviously the down side would be that a region of Holberg was no longer under Imperial control - it would no longer be part of the League.		Obviously the down side would be that a region of Holberg was no longer under Imperial control - it would no longer be part of the League.

Rafferty: /* Resolution */

2022-03-29T15:32:21Z

Resolution

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	Any mandates to address this issue would '''not''' compete with a mandate encouraging Dawnish knights and troubadours to seek out the miasma pillars.		Any mandates to address this issue would '''not''' compete with a mandate encouraging Dawnish knights and troubadours to seek out the miasma pillars.
	==Resolution==		==Resolution==
	The Pride virtue assembly [[383YE_Spring_Equinox_Synod_judgements#Judgement_102\|passed a mandate]] to preach in Ossium.~~<br>~~		The Pride virtue assembly [[383YE_Spring_Equinox_Synod_judgements#Judgement_102\|passed a mandate]] to preach in Ossium.

	The Imperial Senate [[Cede region of Misericorde to Sand Fishers\|ceded]] the region of [[Holberg#Misericorde\|Misericorde]] to the Sand Fishers.		The Imperial Senate [[Cede region of Misericorde to Sand Fishers\|ceded]] the region of [[Holberg#Misericorde\|Misericorde]] to the Sand Fishers.

			As of Winter 383YE, the other opportunities regarding Ossium are no longer available..

RichardRaynor at 21:31, 20 January 2022

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	[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:383YE]][[Category:Recent History]]		[[Category:Winds of Fortune]][[Category:383YE Spring]][[Category:Recent History]]
	<ic>Three Hands stared intently at the human. It was one of the new ones - the ones with the eagle banners who had taken over from the sun worshippers. The followers of the sun were far away to the east - killing Druj. He doubted they would come back. People who went east never came back.		<ic>Three Hands stared intently at the human. It was one of the new ones - the ones with the eagle banners who had taken over from the sun worshippers. The followers of the sun were far away to the east - killing Druj. He doubted they would come back. People who went east never came back.

Hastur at 13:27, 3 May 2021

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	===Broken Spirits===		===Broken Spirits===
	* '''The Sand Fishers could conceivably be persuaded to move to Skarsind but it is unlikely to be easy.'''		* '''The Sand Fishers could conceivably be persuaded to move to Skarsind but it is unlikely to be easy.'''
	In theory it might be possible to persuade the Sand Fishers to move to Skarsind. These people have literally nothing in common with the Imperial Orcs on any level. The martial spirit that characterises the Imperial Orc nation, the defining history of a fight against oppression and slavery, these things are completely non-existent among the Sand ~~Fisher tribe~~. The ~~tribe~~ could contribute nothing to the martial strength of the Imperial Orcs, they fear battle and prefer to hide from enemies where they can. They would not contribute to the taxation of the territory - they are fishers and marsh-gatherers - they would be completely lost in the harsh mountain terrain of Skarsind.		In theory it might be possible to persuade the Sand Fishers to move to Skarsind. These people have literally nothing in common with the Imperial Orcs on any level. The martial spirit that characterises the Imperial Orc nation, the defining history of a fight against oppression and slavery, these things are completely non-existent among the Sand Fishers. The nation could contribute nothing to the martial strength of the Imperial Orcs, they fear battle and prefer to hide from enemies where they can. They would not contribute to the taxation of the territory - they are fishers and marsh-gatherers - they would be completely lost in the harsh mountain terrain of Skarsind.

	But... they would be living alongside the Imperial Orcs. Provided their craven and servile demeanour did not cause them to be ostracised by the inhabitants of Skarsind then it's possible that might be inspired by the example set by the Imperial Orcs. There might be some way to lift them from their impoverished state, particularly once they were free from the Druj miasma.		But... they would be living alongside the Imperial Orcs. Provided their craven and servile demeanour did not cause them to be ostracised by the inhabitants of Skarsind then it's possible that might be inspired by the example set by the Imperial Orcs. There might be some way to lift them from their impoverished state, particularly once they were free from the Druj miasma.
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	===Cold Words===		===Cold Words===
	* '''The Thule are prepared to offer the Sand Fishers and other native ~~tribes~~ sanctuary in [[Otkodov]].'''		* '''The Thule are prepared to offer the Sand Fishers and other native orcs sanctuary in [[Otkodov]].'''
	There is another option that could be considered, though it comes from a strange and dubious source. The Thule make a formal approach to the [[Ambassador to Otkodov\|ambassador's]] office to inform the Empire that they would be happy to send representatives of the Thule Dragons to speak to the Sand Fishers and the other subject ~~tribes~~ that live in Ossium. They would be happy to move these ~~tribes~~ to Skuld, where a home could be found for them on the banks of the Luhguren. They could make new lives for themselves there, as part of the Thule nation.		There is another option that could be considered, though it comes from a strange and dubious source. The Thule make a formal approach to the [[Ambassador to Otkodov\|ambassador's]] office to inform the Empire that they would be happy to send representatives of the Thule Dragons to speak to the Sand Fishers and the other subject orcs that live in Ossium. They would be happy to move these orcs to Skuld, where a home could be found for them on the banks of the Luhguren. They could make new lives for themselves there, as part of the Thule nation.

	The Thule stress that nobody would be forced to leave - their intention would be to send warlocks to speak to the orcs and make the offer directly to them. They would point out that the territory has been granted to the Varushkans, a people with limited tolerance for orcs as a people, and that there would be no future for them in Ossium, but the Dragons would welcome them in the far north, and they would be given the means to establish new homes far from the Druj menace.		The Thule stress that nobody would be forced to leave - their intention would be to send warlocks to speak to the orcs and make the offer directly to them. They would point out that the territory has been granted to the Varushkans, a people with limited tolerance for orcs as a people, and that there would be no future for them in Ossium, but the Dragons would welcome them in the far north, and they would be given the means to establish new homes far from the Druj menace.

	The Thule could legally make the offer now - they have the right to travel the Empire as foreigners, so little could be done to stop them if they chose to approach the Sand Fishers and the other ~~orc tribes~~. However they have made clear that they will not approach the ~~tribe~~ unless given clear permission to do so either by the Imperial Senate, or with direct personal authorisation from the [[Ambassador to Otkodov]].		The Thule could legally make the offer now - they have the right to travel the Empire as foreigners, so little could be done to stop them if they chose to approach the Sand Fishers and the other orcs. However they have made clear that they will not approach the nation unless given clear permission to do so either by the Imperial Senate, or with direct personal authorisation from the [[Ambassador to Otkodov]].

	==The Crawling Depths==		==The Crawling Depths==

GuiltyConscience: /* Deep Pockets */

2019-06-26T11:26:28Z

Deep Pockets

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	The Ketsov are keen to procure new trading partners to buy their weapons and armour now that the Druj are not around. After discussion with the civil service they propose the commission of the Ketsov Trading Exchange in the town. The plan would require 8 wains of white granite, 8 wains of weirwood, and 32 crowns to create a suitable hall capable of supporting Varushkan merchants visiting the town. Inhabitants of the town could bring their wares to sell to the visiting merchants ensuring these valuable goods go to the Empire and ensuring the Prosperity of the town.		The Ketsov are keen to procure new trading partners to buy their weapons and armour now that the Druj are not around. After discussion with the civil service they propose the commission of the Ketsov Trading Exchange in the town. The plan would require 8 wains of white granite, 8 wains of weirwood, and 32 crowns to create a suitable hall capable of supporting Varushkan merchants visiting the town. Inhabitants of the town could bring their wares to sell to the visiting merchants ensuring these valuable goods go to the Empire and ensuring the Prosperity of the town.

	If the commission were complete, then someone could be appointed as the Burgher of Ketsov. This Imperial title would be responsible for ensuring the Prosperity of the town by overseeing the trade. It would be their responsibility to resolve disputes between merchants and ensure that contracts were paid in full. The position would function as a [[ministry]] with valuable opportunities to purchase some of the items produced by the skilled inhabitants of the town. The Exchange could be commissioned using a [[Senate motion]] or a [[wayleave]].		If the commission were complete, then someone could be appointed as the Burgher of Ketsov. This Imperial title would be responsible for ensuring the Prosperity of the town by overseeing the trade. It would be their responsibility to resolve disputes between merchants and ensure that contracts were paid in full. The position would function as a [[ministry]] with valuable opportunities to purchase some of the items produced by the skilled inhabitants of the town. The Exchange could be commissioned using a [[Senate motion]] or a [[Bearer_of_an_Imperial_Wayleave\|wayleave]].

	The Ketsov are concerned for the prosperity of the town if the Trading Exchange is not constructed, whoever there is an alternative that would ensure the flow of money to the settlement continues if that is the case. The Thule have offered to build the Exchange if the Empire does not wish to. They are keen to purchase fine weapons and armour from Ketsov - and would be happy to pay for the commission if it were allowed. Since this is Imperial land, it would need a Senate motion to permit the construction to take place, but would not need any resources or a commission slot, since the Thule would provide all the materials and labour. Obviously in that case, the Thule would appoint one of their own to oversee the exchange - but the steady flow of Thule merchants coming to Ketsov would ensure the town remained viable.		The Ketsov are concerned for the prosperity of the town if the Trading Exchange is not constructed, whoever there is an alternative that would ensure the flow of money to the settlement continues if that is the case. The Thule have offered to build the Exchange if the Empire does not wish to. They are keen to purchase fine weapons and armour from Ketsov - and would be happy to pay for the commission if it were allowed. Since this is Imperial land, it would need a Senate motion to permit the construction to take place, but would not need any resources or a commission slot, since the Thule would provide all the materials and labour. Obviously in that case, the Thule would appoint one of their own to oversee the exchange - but the steady flow of Thule merchants coming to Ketsov would ensure the town remained viable.

Hailmur: /* Resolution */

2019-06-18T21:39:55Z

Resolution

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	Any mandates to address this issue would '''not''' compete with a mandate encouraging Dawnish knights and troubadours to seek out the miasma pillars.		Any mandates to address this issue would '''not''' compete with a mandate encouraging Dawnish knights and troubadours to seek out the miasma pillars.
	==Resolution==		==Resolution==
	The Pride virtue assembly [[383YE_Spring_Equinox_Synod_judgements#Judgement_102\|passed a mandate]] to preach in Ossium.		The Pride virtue assembly [[383YE_Spring_Equinox_Synod_judgements#Judgement_102\|passed a mandate]] to preach in Ossium.<br>
			The Imperial Senate [[Cede region of Misericorde to Sand Fishers\|ceded]] the region of [[Holberg#Misericorde\|Misericorde]] to the Sand Fishers.

Rafferty: /* Paramount Virtue */

2019-06-18T12:23:54Z

Paramount Virtue

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	Any mandates to address this issue would '''not''' compete with a mandate encouraging Dawnish knights and troubadours to seek out the miasma pillars.		Any mandates to address this issue would '''not''' compete with a mandate encouraging Dawnish knights and troubadours to seek out the miasma pillars.
			==Resolution==
			The Pride virtue assembly [[383YE_Spring_Equinox_Synod_judgements#Judgement_102\|passed a mandate]] to preach in Ossium.