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	===Start Another War===		===Start Another War===
	* '''The Jotun want to fight a strong Empire, they will be more receptive to peace with a weakened Empire'''		* '''The Jotun want to fight a strong Empire, they will be more receptive to peace with a weakened Empire'''
	* '''They are more likely to accept peace if the Empire start another war with the Thule or the ~~Vallorn~~'''		* '''They are more likely to accept peace if the Empire start another war with the Thule or the vallorn'''
	It is often claimed that the Jotun enjoy war, or that they live for it. The situation appears to be more complicated than that, but they are the most religious of all the orc nations that border the Empire. Their ancestors, their "gods", tell them they can only pass over the Howling Abyss if they die in a battle against a ''worthy opponent''.		It is often claimed that the Jotun enjoy war, or that they live for it. The situation appears to be more complicated than that, but they are the most religious of all the orc nations that border the Empire. Their ancestors, their "gods", tell them they can only pass over the Howling Abyss if they die in a battle against a ''worthy opponent''.

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	The first is an offer of limited ceasefire, what the negotiators refer to as the 'Little Sibling Deal'. While an actual [[Ambassador#Treaty\|treaty]] will need to be drafted, and presented to the Senate by the [[Imperial Consul]], the actual details are quite simple. The Empire will [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Concedence\|cede]] to the Lasambrians - specifically the Lasambrians, rather than the Jotun more broadly - the regions of [[Kahraman#Gambit\|Gambit]] and [[Kahraman#Serra Damata\|Serra Damata]] in Kahraman. The Empire will also commit to send no Imperial armies into either the ceded regions or into the territory of Reinos for a period of two years. In exchange for this, no Jotun army will enter any territory controlled by the Freeborn for a period of two years. This would not only include Kahraman and Segura, but any other territory that is conquered by or [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assigned]] to the Freeborn within the period of the ceasefire.		The first is an offer of limited ceasefire, what the negotiators refer to as the 'Little Sibling Deal'. While an actual [[Ambassador#Treaty\|treaty]] will need to be drafted, and presented to the Senate by the [[Imperial Consul]], the actual details are quite simple. The Empire will [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Concedence\|cede]] to the Lasambrians - specifically the Lasambrians, rather than the Jotun more broadly - the regions of [[Kahraman#Gambit\|Gambit]] and [[Kahraman#Serra Damata\|Serra Damata]] in Kahraman. The Empire will also commit to send no Imperial armies into either the ceded regions or into the territory of Reinos for a period of two years. In exchange for this, no Jotun army will enter any territory controlled by the Freeborn for a period of two years. This would not only include Kahraman and Segura, but any other territory that is conquered by or [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assigned]] to the Freeborn within the period of the ceasefire.

	This offer would include ''all'' armies of the Jotun, not just the Lasambrians. Follow-up questions clarify that while the armies of the Jotun may travel through the Lasambrian-controlled regions of Kahraman during this time, they will not cross the borders into Imperial-controlled territory. Of course, Serra Damata includes two [[~~Bourse\|~~Bourse]] resources, the Imperial seat of the [[Damatian Cliffs]] and the Freeborn National seat of the [[Red Depths]], both of which would go to the Lasambrians when the regions were ceded.		This offer would include ''all'' armies of the Jotun, not just the Lasambrians. Follow-up questions clarify that while the armies of the Jotun may travel through the Lasambrian-controlled regions of Kahraman during this time, they will not cross the borders into Imperial-controlled territory. Of course, Serra Damata includes two [[Bourse]] resources, the Imperial seat of the [[Damatian Cliffs]] and the Freeborn National seat of the [[Red Depths]], both of which would go to the Lasambrians when the regions were ceded.

	It would be challenging to enact such a treaty without the support of the Freeborn themselves; any [[Senate motion]] that cedes a [[territory#regions\|region]] or territory of a nation is subject to a [[veto]] by the [[Assembly#General_Assembly\|General Assembly]] or the [[Assembly#The_National_Assemblies\|national assembly]] of the nation relinquishing land.		It would be challenging to enact such a treaty without the support of the Freeborn themselves; any [[Senate motion]] that cedes a [[territory#regions\|region]] or territory of a nation is subject to a [[veto]] by the [[Assembly#General_Assembly\|General Assembly]] or the [[Assembly#The_National_Assemblies\|national assembly]] of the nation relinquishing land.

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	The first is an offer of limited ceasefire, what the negotiators refer to as the 'Little Sibling Deal'. While an actual [[Ambassador#Treaty\|treaty]] will need to be drafted, and presented to the Senate by the [[Imperial Consul]], the actual details are quite simple. The Empire will [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Concedence\|cede]] to the Lasambrians - specifically the Lasambrians, rather than the Jotun more broadly - the regions of [[Kahraman#Gambit\|Gambit]] and [[Kahraman#Serra Damata\|Serra Damata]] in Kahraman. The Empire will also commit to send no Imperial armies into either the ceded regions or into the territory of Reinos for a period of two years. In exchange for this, no Jotun army will enter any territory controlled by the Freeborn for a period of two years. This would not only include Kahraman and Segura, but any other territory that is conquered by or [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assigned]] to the Freeborn within the period of the ceasefire.		The first is an offer of limited ceasefire, what the negotiators refer to as the 'Little Sibling Deal'. While an actual [[Ambassador#Treaty\|treaty]] will need to be drafted, and presented to the Senate by the [[Imperial Consul]], the actual details are quite simple. The Empire will [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Concedence\|cede]] to the Lasambrians - specifically the Lasambrians, rather than the Jotun more broadly - the regions of [[Kahraman#Gambit\|Gambit]] and [[Kahraman#Serra Damata\|Serra Damata]] in Kahraman. The Empire will also commit to send no Imperial armies into either the ceded regions or into the territory of Reinos for a period of two years. In exchange for this, no Jotun army will enter any territory controlled by the Freeborn for a period of two years. This would not only include Kahraman and Segura, but any other territory that is conquered by or [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assigned]] to the Freeborn within the period of the ceasefire.

	This offer would include ''all'' armies of the Jotun, not just the Lasambrians. Follow-up questions clarify that while the armies of the Jotun may travel through the Lasambrian-controlled regions of Kahraman during this time, they will not cross the borders into Imperial-controlled territory. Of course, Serra Damata includes two [[~~Imperial~~ Bourse\|Bourse]] resources, the Imperial seat of the [[Damatian Cliffs]] and the Freeborn National seat of the [[Red Depths]], both of which would go to the Lasambrians when the regions were ceded.		This offer would include ''all'' armies of the Jotun, not just the Lasambrians. Follow-up questions clarify that while the armies of the Jotun may travel through the Lasambrian-controlled regions of Kahraman during this time, they will not cross the borders into Imperial-controlled territory. Of course, Serra Damata includes two [[Bourse\|Bourse]] resources, the Imperial seat of the [[Damatian Cliffs]] and the Freeborn National seat of the [[Red Depths]], both of which would go to the Lasambrians when the regions were ceded.

	It would be challenging to enact such a treaty without the support of the Freeborn themselves; any [[Senate motion]] that cedes a [[territory#regions\|region]] or territory of a nation is subject to a [[veto]] by the [[Assembly#General_Assembly\|General Assembly]] or the [[Assembly#The_National_Assemblies\|national assembly]] of the nation relinquishing land.		It would be challenging to enact such a treaty without the support of the Freeborn themselves; any [[Senate motion]] that cedes a [[territory#regions\|region]] or territory of a nation is subject to a [[veto]] by the [[Assembly#General_Assembly\|General Assembly]] or the [[Assembly#The_National_Assemblies\|national assembly]] of the nation relinquishing land.

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	==A Short History Of War==		==A Short History Of War==
	* '''Relations with the Jotun have been fraught since the death of Empress Britta'''		* '''Relations with the Jotun have been fraught since the death of Empress Britta'''
	Naomi's first action is to look at the recent history with the Jotun, the events of the last ten years. In [[Safe_passage_for_the_Jotun\|Spring 377YE]] the [[Senate]] guaranteed safe passage to [[Anvil]] for a delegation from the west. Such a delegation arrived that Summer and successfully [[Accept_Jotun_ceasefire\|negotiated a ceasefire]] with the Empire for two years. There was a request to [[Extension_of_Jotun_Ceasefire\|extend the peace treaty]] in 378YE which was initially rebuffed by the Imperial Senate. But that rejection was itself [[veto\|vetoed]] by the [[~~Imperial~~ Synod]], leading the Senate to change its mind and later pass the request. That meant that the peace should have lasted until the start of the Spring Equinox 380YE.		Naomi's first action is to look at the recent history with the Jotun, the events of the last ten years. In [[Safe_passage_for_the_Jotun\|Spring 377YE]] the [[Senate]] guaranteed safe passage to [[Anvil]] for a delegation from the west. Such a delegation arrived that Summer and successfully [[Accept_Jotun_ceasefire\|negotiated a ceasefire]] with the Empire for two years. There was a request to [[Extension_of_Jotun_Ceasefire\|extend the peace treaty]] in 378YE which was initially rebuffed by the Imperial Senate. But that rejection was itself [[veto\|vetoed]] by the [[Synod]], leading the Senate to change its mind and later pass the request. That meant that the peace should have lasted until the start of the Spring Equinox 380YE.

	Unfortunately, the Jotun used peace with the Empire as an opportunity to attack their neighbours, first the [[Faraden]] and then the orcs of the Lasambrian hills. The Empire intervened in both conflicts. No armies were sent, but scores of [[military unit\|independent military units]] were sent to Faraden to try to help them hold off the Jotun. In the end it was enough to ensure the Jotun knew they were there, and taking part in the fight, but not enough to make the difference. The Faraden were defeated and forced to sue for peace on Jotun terms. Messages from the Jotun made clear that they were furious about the Empire taking sides in the fight. The fragile peace still held, but it would definitely break if Imperial forces fought against the Jotun again.		Unfortunately, the Jotun used peace with the Empire as an opportunity to attack their neighbours, first the [[Faraden]] and then the orcs of the Lasambrian hills. The Empire intervened in both conflicts. No armies were sent, but scores of [[military unit\|independent military units]] were sent to Faraden to try to help them hold off the Jotun. In the end it was enough to ensure the Jotun knew they were there, and taking part in the fight, but not enough to make the difference. The Faraden were defeated and forced to sue for peace on Jotun terms. Messages from the Jotun made clear that they were furious about the Empire taking sides in the fight. The fragile peace still held, but it would definitely break if Imperial forces fought against the Jotun again.

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	==A Short History Of War==		==A Short History Of War==
	* '''Relations with the Jotun have been fraught since the death of Empress Britta'''		* '''Relations with the Jotun have been fraught since the death of Empress Britta'''
	Naomi's first action is to look at the recent history with the Jotun, the events of the last ten years. In [[Safe_passage_for_the_Jotun\|Spring 377YE]] the [[~~Imperial~~ Senate]] guaranteed safe passage to [[Anvil]] for a delegation from the west. Such a delegation arrived that Summer and successfully [[Accept_Jotun_ceasefire\|negotiated a ceasefire]] with the Empire for two years. There was a request to [[Extension_of_Jotun_Ceasefire\|extend the peace treaty]] in 378YE which was initially rebuffed by the Imperial Senate. But that rejection was itself [[veto\|vetoed]] by the [[Imperial Synod]], leading the Senate to change its mind and later pass the request. That meant that the peace should have lasted until the start of the Spring Equinox 380YE.		Naomi's first action is to look at the recent history with the Jotun, the events of the last ten years. In [[Safe_passage_for_the_Jotun\|Spring 377YE]] the [[Senate]] guaranteed safe passage to [[Anvil]] for a delegation from the west. Such a delegation arrived that Summer and successfully [[Accept_Jotun_ceasefire\|negotiated a ceasefire]] with the Empire for two years. There was a request to [[Extension_of_Jotun_Ceasefire\|extend the peace treaty]] in 378YE which was initially rebuffed by the Imperial Senate. But that rejection was itself [[veto\|vetoed]] by the [[Imperial Synod]], leading the Senate to change its mind and later pass the request. That meant that the peace should have lasted until the start of the Spring Equinox 380YE.

	Unfortunately, the Jotun used peace with the Empire as an opportunity to attack their neighbours, first the [[Faraden]] and then the orcs of the Lasambrian hills. The Empire intervened in both conflicts. No armies were sent, but scores of [[military unit\|independent military units]] were sent to Faraden to try to help them hold off the Jotun. In the end it was enough to ensure the Jotun knew they were there, and taking part in the fight, but not enough to make the difference. The Faraden were defeated and forced to sue for peace on Jotun terms. Messages from the Jotun made clear that they were furious about the Empire taking sides in the fight. The fragile peace still held, but it would definitely break if Imperial forces fought against the Jotun again.		Unfortunately, the Jotun used peace with the Empire as an opportunity to attack their neighbours, first the [[Faraden]] and then the orcs of the Lasambrian hills. The Empire intervened in both conflicts. No armies were sent, but scores of [[military unit\|independent military units]] were sent to Faraden to try to help them hold off the Jotun. In the end it was enough to ensure the Jotun knew they were there, and taking part in the fight, but not enough to make the difference. The Faraden were defeated and forced to sue for peace on Jotun terms. Messages from the Jotun made clear that they were furious about the Empire taking sides in the fight. The fragile peace still held, but it would definitely break if Imperial forces fought against the Jotun again.

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	Fortunately, it appears that this religious demand does not require the Empire to kill every single Jotun warrior. But it includes every Jotun who is judged to have been responsible for the safety of the Mournwold thralls, especially those Jotun who held lands there when the Empire attacked.		Fortunately, it appears that this religious demand does not require the Empire to kill every single Jotun warrior. But it includes every Jotun who is judged to have been responsible for the safety of the Mournwold thralls, especially those Jotun who held lands there when the Empire attacked.

	Many have already passed. The Jotun are forbidden by their Jarls and their ~~godhi~~ from throwing their lives away in pointless combat. Their ancestors apparently will ''not'' take those who fight and die for no reason. As a consequence, the Jotun will usually retreat when a battle is lost, rather than fight to the last orc. But when the Empire defeated the Jotun in [[Kahraman]], a large group of Jotun were given permission to [[Shallows_and_miseries#The_Flames_of_Fort_Braydon\|fight to the death at Fort Braydon]] because the ~~godhi~~ had consulted the faðir and identified that doing so would yield a strategic benefit for the nation.		Many have already passed. The Jotun are forbidden by their Jarls and their ghodi from throwing their lives away in pointless combat. Their ancestors apparently will ''not'' take those who fight and die for no reason. As a consequence, the Jotun will usually retreat when a battle is lost, rather than fight to the last orc. But when the Empire defeated the Jotun in [[Kahraman]], a large group of Jotun were given permission to [[Shallows_and_miseries#The_Flames_of_Fort_Braydon\|fight to the death at Fort Braydon]] because the ghodi had consulted the faðir and identified that doing so would yield a strategic benefit for the nation.

	Those who died when the fort fell were all Jotun who had lost their honour in the Mournwold. Naomi believes this could be a subtle sign that some of the Jotun leaders may be deliberately creating conditions for peace. But they won't contemplate an end to war with the Empire while any of the affected Jotun still live. It's impossible for Naomi to identify the names of every Jotun, but ''Jarl Haakon'' was the Jarl who ruled the Mournwold. If there is any single Jotun who absolutely ''must die'' before there can be peace, it is Jarl Haakon. There is no possibility that the Jotun will stop fighting; until Jarl Haakon is dead, preferably at the hands of Imperial warriors fighting them in battle.		Those who died when the fort fell were all Jotun who had lost their honour in the Mournwold. Naomi believes this could be a subtle sign that some of the Jotun leaders may be deliberately creating conditions for peace. But they won't contemplate an end to war with the Empire while any of the affected Jotun still live. It's impossible for Naomi to identify the names of every Jotun, but ''Jarl Haakon'' was the Jarl who ruled the Mournwold. If there is any single Jotun who absolutely ''must die'' before there can be peace, it is Jarl Haakon. There is no possibility that the Jotun will stop fighting; until Jarl Haakon is dead, preferably at the hands of Imperial warriors fighting them in battle.

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	It's also entirely appropriate for anyone who was active during the period following the death of [[Empress Britta]] to roleplay that they have spoken with Naomi or one of her assistants, sharing their own opinions on these events.		It's also entirely appropriate for anyone who was active during the period following the death of [[Empress Britta]] to roleplay that they have spoken with Naomi or one of her assistants, sharing their own opinions on these events.
			==Resolution==
			The [[#The Lasambrian Delegation\|Lasambrian delegation]] visited [[Anvil]] without incident, and engaged in further negotiations. However, no treaty was raised before the Imperial Senate.
	==Further Reading==		==Further Reading==
	* [[Jotun]]		* [[Jotun]]

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	<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Orcs of the West.jpg\|align=left\|caption=The Jotun are born to war, conquerors by nature, who seek an honourable death in battle against worthy foes.\|width=600}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Orcs of the West.jpg\|align=left\|caption=The Jotun are born to war, conquerors by nature, who seek an honourable death in battle against worthy foes.\|width=600}}</div>
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	==Overview==		==Overview==
	* '''The Imperial Senate has commissioned Naomi of Virtue's Rest to explore ways to make peace more appealing to the Jotun'''		* '''The Imperial Senate has commissioned Naomi of Virtue's Rest to explore ways to make peace more appealing to the Jotun'''

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	* '''The Jotun are born to war, conquerors by nature, who seek an honourable death in battle'''		* '''The Jotun are born to war, conquerors by nature, who seek an honourable death in battle'''
	* '''The Empire has always either been at war with the Jotun, or preparing to be at war with them during brief interludes of peace'''		* '''The Empire has always either been at war with the Jotun, or preparing to be at war with them during brief interludes of peace'''
	<div style="float:right; width: 600px; clear: left;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=FurryJotun.jpg\|align=right\|caption=Since its inception, the Empire has either been at war with the Jotun or preparing for the next war to begin.\|width=600}}</div>
	Throughout Wintermark and Imperial history there have been sporadic periods of peace with the Jotun. During the reign of [[Emperor Guntherm]], the Empire and the Jotun even allied together to fight a sustained campaign against the [[Thule]]. However these periods of peace have never lasted long, rarely more than five or ten years at the absolute outside.		Throughout Wintermark and Imperial history there have been sporadic periods of peace with the Jotun. During the reign of [[Emperor Guntherm]], the Empire and the Jotun even allied together to fight a sustained campaign against the [[Thule]]. However these periods of peace have never lasted long, rarely more than five or ten years at the absolute outside.

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	The first is an offer of limited ceasefire, what the negotiators refer to as the 'Little Sibling Deal'. While an actual [[Ambassador#Treaty\|treaty]] will need to be drafted, and presented to the Senate by the [[Imperial Consul]], the actual details are quite simple. The Empire will [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Concedence\|cede]] to the Lasambrians - specifically the Lasambrians, rather than the Jotun more broadly - the regions of [[Kahraman#Gambit\|Gambit]] and [[Kahraman#Serra Damata\|Serra Damata]] in Kahraman. The Empire will also commit to send no Imperial armies into either the ceded regions or into the territory of Reinos for a period of two years. In exchange for this, no Jotun army will enter any territory controlled by the Freeborn for a period of two years. This would not only include Kahraman and Segura, but any other territory that is conquered by or [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assigned]] to the Freeborn within the period of the ceasefire.		The first is an offer of limited ceasefire, what the negotiators refer to as the 'Little Sibling Deal'. While an actual [[Ambassador#Treaty\|treaty]] will need to be drafted, and presented to the Senate by the [[Imperial Consul]], the actual details are quite simple. The Empire will [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Concedence\|cede]] to the Lasambrians - specifically the Lasambrians, rather than the Jotun more broadly - the regions of [[Kahraman#Gambit\|Gambit]] and [[Kahraman#Serra Damata\|Serra Damata]] in Kahraman. The Empire will also commit to send no Imperial armies into either the ceded regions or into the territory of Reinos for a period of two years. In exchange for this, no Jotun army will enter any territory controlled by the Freeborn for a period of two years. This would not only include Kahraman and Segura, but any other territory that is conquered by or [[Powers_of_the_Imperial_Senate#Assignment\|assigned]] to the Freeborn within the period of the ceasefire.

	This offer would include ''all'' armies of the Jotun, not just the Lasambrians. Follow-up questions clarify that while the armies of the Jotun may travel through the Lasambrian-controlled regions of Kahraman during this time, they will not cross the borders into Imperial-controlled territory. Of course, Serra Damata includes two [[~~Imperial~~ Bourse\|Bourse]] resources, the Imperial seat of the [[Damatian Cliffs]] and the Freeborn National seat of the [[Red Depths]], both of which would go to the Lasambrians when the regions were ceded.		This offer would include ''all'' armies of the Jotun, not just the Lasambrians. Follow-up questions clarify that while the armies of the Jotun may travel through the Lasambrian-controlled regions of Kahraman during this time, they will not cross the borders into Imperial-controlled territory. Of course, Serra Damata includes two [[Bourse\|Bourse]] resources, the Imperial seat of the [[Damatian Cliffs]] and the Freeborn National seat of the [[Red Depths]], both of which would go to the Lasambrians when the regions were ceded.

	It would be challenging to enact such a treaty without the support of the Freeborn themselves; any [[Senate motion]] that cedes a [[territory#regions\|region]] or territory of a nation is subject to a [[veto]] by the [[Assembly#General_Assembly\|General Assembly]] or the [[Assembly#The_National_Assemblies\|national assembly]] of the nation relinquishing land.		It would be challenging to enact such a treaty without the support of the Freeborn themselves; any [[Senate motion]] that cedes a [[territory#regions\|region]] or territory of a nation is subject to a [[veto]] by the [[Assembly#General_Assembly\|General Assembly]] or the [[Assembly#The_National_Assemblies\|national assembly]] of the nation relinquishing land.

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	"I don't like this Naimes." the grizzled Varushkan scowled, his displeasure written all over this face. "It's too dangerous."		"I don't like this Naimes," the grizzled Varushkan scowled, his displeasure written all over this face. "It's too dangerous."

	She rolled her eyes, much as she enjoyed her guard's company, the constant protectiveness was a burden when it got in the way of her work. "We've been through this a dozen times already Leszek. I am going to the Jotun camp. And you are going back north to wait here, for me to return."		She rolled her eyes, much as she enjoyed her guard's company, the constant protectiveness was a burden when it got in the way of her work. "We've been through this a dozen times already Leszek. I am going to the Jotun camp. And you are going back north to wait here, for me to return."
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	The grim schlacta scowled again. Being unable to deny her logic wasn't making him any happier.		The grim schlacta scowled again. Being unable to deny her logic wasn't making him any happier.

	"I'll be fine Leszek." she reassured him one last time. "With you, we'd both be in terrible danger. The Jarl might see you as a threat and attack. But alone I will be absolutely ''fine''. I will be safer in that camp than I would be in the Castle of Thorns. The Jarl won't let anyone harm a hair on my head."		"I'll be fine Leszek," she reassured him one last time. "With you, we'd both be in terrible danger. The Jarl might see you as a threat and attack. But alone I will be absolutely ''fine''. I will be safer in that camp than I would be in the Castle of Thorns. The Jarl won't let anyone harm a hair on my head."

	"You don't know that!" he retorted. "You're just guessing..."		"You don't know that!" he retorted. "You're just guessing..."
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	Now it was Naomi's turn to look annoyed. Her eyes narrowed, a sure sign her temper was rising. "I'm a prognosticator," she retorted, "I ''never'' guess..."		Now it was Naomi's turn to look annoyed. Her eyes narrowed, a sure sign her temper was rising. "I'm a prognosticator," she retorted, "I ''never'' guess..."
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	<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Orcs of the West.jpg\|align=left\|caption=The Jotun are born to war, conquerors by nature, who seek an honourable death in battle against worthy foes.\|width=600}}</div>		<div style="float:left; width: 600px; clear: right;">{{CaptionedImage\|file=Orcs of the West.jpg\|align=left\|caption=The Jotun are born to war, conquerors by nature, who seek an honourable death in battle against worthy foes.\|width=600}}</div>{{audio\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXVXD9eHNgY}}
	{{PDFLink\|align=right\|link=File:A stone for a stone.pdf\|caption=Click for pdf version}}		{{PDFLink\|align=right\|link=File:A stone for a stone.pdf\|caption=Click for pdf version}}
	==Overview==		==Overview==